Borgore: I was the first one to ruin dubstep
As beastiality is veering off topic, I move the subject onto the interesting places being an international DJ has taken him. “Have you ever been to Rotterdam? They have a statue of a garden dwarf holding a buttplug in the middle of the city,” he says. “It’s called Buttplug Gnome. Little kids just know him as ‘the Buttplug Gnome’. It’s just a massive statue of a huge fucking garden gnome holding a buttplug.”
Borgore likes to shock. That’s how he earned the unenviable title of ‘the man who ruined dubstep’. It didn’t take much for him to incur the wrath of genre purists and internet trolls – all he had to do was swap the standard dubstep bassline for ‘triplets’, the heavy drum beat that is a staple for many hardcore and black metal bands. It was nothing new to the 24-year old, as before embracing DJ culture, he used to be the drummer in a hardcore band in his native Israel. It was when he announced he had created a new subgenre, ‘gorestep’, that the insults began to pour in – and his level of fame increased.
But for every person that hates him, plenty more love him, meaning he has worked with a string of mainstream artists including Dev, Britney Spears, M.I.A and Rusko. He also runs his own label, Buygore, which is the reason he is in London this snowy day. One of his acts, Document One, are downstairs filming the video for Moving Together, their new single and the lead track from his forthcoming compilation and label sampler,”Misadventures in Dubstep”.
Presumably being told you ruined dubstep must hurt.
“I was the first one to ruin it. Music is music. I try to focus and concentrate on how I will develop myself, not how will I get bigger than other people. I started making music for myself and that’s how I’ll continue.”
So how has gorestep evolved?
“Was there ever gorestep? I made a couple of tracks that weren’t conventional dubstep. It was 140 bpm, but it was triplets over time. It’s pretty standard in the metal world, the whole of At The Gates’ album Slaughter of the Soul uses it, and Lamb of God like to do it. No one did it before I did it, I called it gorestep and now people brand my whole music under it.” He adds, “I think I’m doing something different to everyone else, as my tunes are weird.”
Borgore wears the slur like a badge of pride, releasing a two part EP named ‘Borgore Ruined Dubstep’ in 2010, and wearing a t-shirt with it emblazoned on when he plays live.
But it wasn’t only the thicker, more aggressive beats that got him noticed. His lyrics have been labelled as outrageously sexist. On “Dance Like A Hoe”, a track where he advises women to watch blue movies to keep their man happy, he raps, ‘Girl take example from these bitches, In bed act like a hoe, But first do the dishes’.
While the content of his songs isn’t quite up there with Necro, who happily fantasises about rape and slicing women’s breasts off, it’s not exactly empowering either. “I didn’t even know Necro until a couple of months ago,” he says. “None of my lyrics consist of killing or violence or anything like that – everything is humorous and full of good vibes.”
He says Ludacris and Dr.Dre are big influences for him, and is philosophical about how his extreme sound and content can often see him given a wide berth by music fans. “Metallica were rough for their days,” he says.
“People in the internet age have seen everything. They see all these viral videos of people killing, proper snuff. You see all this horrible stuff, it’s really hard to shock people anymore and I think that what I sing about is not that shocking, not in our age. Every single twelve year old has seen rough porn already.”
The gorestep producer draws the line at suffering. “I can not deal with people or animals suffering. It’s really hard for me, to be honest. There are things on the same level as Two Girls One Cup but they’re not sexual, they’re violent. I can’t watch gore movies either, I don’t like to see people suffer, that’s the problem.”
We meet up just days after Skrillex has swept the board at the Grammys. There are several parallels between them – both started out in successful bands, although Skrillex (or Sonny Moore as he was known back then) was in the emo group From First To Last, singing about feelings – while Borgore’s hardcore band Shabira screamed venom about the Israeli political landscape.
The way it usually works is underground music gets popular, people stop listening to it, muttering about ‘sell outs’. But Borgore doesn’t think that Skrillex’s enormous success will be the end of the genre, but that it will simply reach a point of no return as producers gradually run out of ways of moving the sound forward.
“Obviously it’s not going to stay forever, but what is going to change it?” he asks “I listen to dubstep right now, there’s not a lot of exciting things happening. When I first got to dubstep, Bar 9 would put a tune out, Benga… There were very distinctive sounds for every producer.
“But now, the boundaries are lost, everything sounds the same. There is still interesting stuff out there, it’s just harder to find it. So at this point I’m thinking maybe we’ve reached the ceiling, what’s next? It doesn’t look like there’s even anything popping.”
“It seems like at every time there is too much progression, there is regression. Back in the Greek and Roman days there was democracy, and Pythagoras, and Aristotle – they were very progressive. But then came the Dark Ages and the Inquisition, no new inventions, the world is flat. And then the Renaissance again. So I feel like we’re so progressed with music right now that there will be a regression. There’s people like Tyler the Creator rapping over a simple beat and kids like it. Maybe old school hip hop will be big again, we’ll see.”
Borgore and UKF compilation ‘Misadventures in Dubstep’ is out now.Tagged in: borgore, Buygore, Dance Like A Hoe, Document One, Dubstep, gorestep, music
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