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04 December 2007

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Angus Fraser

Great batsmen go through periods when they do not look like getting out and Sangakkara is there at the moment. Even when he does give a rare chance, as he did to Ian Bell at slip on 98, it is dropped.

He looks bullet-proof. He seems to have so much time to play every shot and gets everything behind the ball. It is disconcerting as a bowler when you can't see the stumps, what have you got to aim at. He is reminiscent of Chanderpaul last summer. In a way they have similar styles.

Stephen Brenkley

Yes, they do though Kumar is a trifle more elegant than Shiv, a little lighter on his feet. The way he lines up the ball and plays so straight - makes him difficult to bowl. Great to watch too for the way he has has paced it. As for Bell's drop at slip when Sangakkara was 98, it was pretty horrendous. In the absence of Trescothick and Flintoff, England look distinctly vulnerable in that area. Bell shouldn't be there. Oh my Tres and Fred of long ago. They've stuck at it well but it's a very long haul from here. Now remind me,who was it who called Sri Lanka two days ago?

Angus Fraser

Well done Stephen. Who was it that inferred Sri Lanka were in a state of near disarray before the Test. Yes, yours truly. You have to admire Sri Lanka's resilience. On four occasions they have been in real strife but on each occasion they have fought their way out.

In the whole shake up of the match Bell's drop is not that important but England's slip cordon is not that convincing, even though Bell took a good catch yesterday to dismiss Vandort.

England have tried hard and not a lot has gone their way but they will do well to save the Test from here. Anderson is an enigmatic figure, bowling good balls that are edged for four and then bad balls that get walloped to the boundary. it's not been his Test. Bopara needs to do something to justify his selection too.

Stephen Brenkley

Ah selection. Let's be wise after the event. In all - all mind - their previous Tests in Sri Lanka, England have played two spinners as part of a five man attack. They made a bold move here. Has it affected them in the second innings or would the second spinner, Graeme Swann, have made little difference? What I would say is that four bowlers here makes it hard. Sri Lanka have four specialists too but one of then does the work of two.

Angus Fraser

You love a fifth bowler but how many overs has the fifth bowler bowled. Bopara came on when Sri Lanka were 266 ahead and the game had gone. If you can get five bowlers in your side, as you can when Flintoff plays, all well and good but I hope that Bopara was not picked for his bowling.

Most bowlers prefer playing in a four man attack because the ball comes to you more often, normally for an hour a session.

Stephen Brenkley

Hear what you say. Yes, five bowlers is important. Cricket teams should be made up five bowlers and five batsmen and a keeper. One of the bowlers should be able to bat, or one of the batsmen able to bowl. England can save it but they will have to bat jolly well. Remember four years ago they batted for 140 overs to earn a draw. Trouble is this time that none of their bowlers can really bat - though it may help a little that three of them are left handers. If they lose can they come back?

Angus Fraser

I would disagree with you there. If there is no natural all-rounder a team should contain six batsmen, one of whom can bowl a bit, a keeper and four bowlers. 20 overs a day is not too heavy a workload.

What happened here four years ago will give England confidence, especially Vaughan who scored a fine hundred. Jayasuriya could be a problem for the left handers, apparently there is a lot of rough for him to aim at. To draw from here, with the weather not interfering, would be a good affort.

Stephen Brenkley

England's greatest triumph of recent years was achieved with five bowlers, one of whom, true, was an all-rounder. But to beat good teams on batsmen's pitches, which most are, every single one of your bowlers has to be on the button. What this match demonstrates unfortunately and yet again is how good Australia are. They have just pummelled Sri Lanka in two matches.

David Watkins

What land is Stephen Brenkley on!? Five batsmen and five bowlers! I should think not.
The two greatest teams the game has seen - the 1980s West Indians and the recent Australian vintage - both employed a pretty straightforward six batsmen/four bowlers combo and it hasn't done them too much harm. In each case the wicket-keeper made a big difference. Clearly Adam Gilchrist is an astonishing player while Jeffrey Dujon certainly knew how to handle a bat. England's selection in this match only really has one question mark over it - Ravi Bopara. His bowling shouldn't have gotten him the nod over Shah, especially now that Paul Collingwood is bowling and unless he comes good with the bat in the second innings, his place should be queried - although I would suggest that he must play in the next match because if he was good enough this week the selectors must back him to be good enough next week.
And as for Mr Brenkley's assertion that England's tail cannot bat, I thought Ryan Sidebottom handled Murali better than most of the top order. Matthew Hoggard appears to be adding a couple of shots to his stout defence and I believe Monty Panesar has the basics to become a useful contributor. Perhaps Mr Brenkley should give the England bowlers some credit for obviously working on their games since the summer

Angus Fraser

Stephen, I have to agree with a lot of what Mr Watkins said, although i think he was a trifle harsh at the end. Sidebottom did well but I have little faith in Hoggard, Anderson and Panesar no matter how much practice they do.

Australia were lucky to have two all-time great bowlers - Warne and McGrath - and i suppose the West Indies were too, but teams cannot run the risk of a say so batsman coming in when the team has lost just four wickets. As the captain of a club cricket side you must be aware of that.

Stephen Brenkley

I like to think I have both feet firmly on the ground. The facts are there. West Indies had a rotating quartet of four extremely fast bowlers (though they also picked a spinner more often than is generally supposed). Australia used four bowlers because they had Warne and McGrath. England won the Ashes with five bowlers. Sri Lanka have just made 442 for eight in the third innings, perhaps partly because England had four bowling specialists. Of course, it's not clear cut and of course Ryan S and to a lesser extent some of the others did well in the first innings. But RS (career average
11.9) is not a Test number eight. England need 350 to win the match. Not quite QED, David and Angus but not as in the clouds as you seem to suppose. Look at history.

Angus Fraser

Stephen, are you suggesting that England should have played a fifth bowler here, a decision that would have left Prior at six and either Swann or Broad at seven? Very strange.

Stephen Brenkley

No of course not. And all along I have said it is difficult. think used the expression wise after the event. But when this squad was picked they must have known what they were letting themselves in for. I should also point out that Matt Prior was being touted at one time last summer as a potential number six.

Angus Fraser

By whom, you in the Independent on Sunday.

Stephen Brenkley

Perhaps we can all agree that it is not the best balanced side at present when you have to bowl out Sri Lanka on their own pitches. Though perhaps not. All to do tomorrow for England. A draw would be marvellous. Let us hope Murali is exhausted from the celebrations.

David Watkins

There is nothing wrong with the balance of England's side Mr Brenkley it is just unfortunate that they have come across a rather special couple of players who are making their lives difficult. At the rate your going England would do well to pick 14 to get the 'right balance'. I'm afraid you have to pick the best players available to you to do a job and in the absence of Andrew Flintoff the option of six batsmen and five bowlers is just not possible. Instead you must go for the best six batsmen you have and the best four bowlers. You might argue that England have failed to select their best batsmen by leaving out Owais Shah, but there surely cannot be any issue with leaving the unreliable Steve Harmison on the sidelines as well as the untried Stuart Broad. Both might have offered something different but they both would have been a gamble.
England's attack made good use of the conditions on day one before Muttiah Muralitharan did his thing to the batsmen and Kumar Sangakkara did his in the second innings. England are not out of this game on a pitch that appears to be getting easier to bat on by the day. For Mr Brenkley to be so unceremoniously scathing about England's selection in this first Test is both unfair and naive.

olympian

Hmmm.. for my money, Sri Lanka got the best of a so-so pitch, and benefitted from a moderate England attack, with an honorable exception for Hoggard in the first innings. I wondered before the Test began about whether we should have brought in Broad rather than Anderson, and I suspect that this was, in retrospect, a mistake. Anderson has many qualities, but I am not sure he is of Test standard. He lacks pace and consistency, and seems destined never quite to fulfil his potential. Broad may be untried, but he is quicker, seems to have the luck that bowlers need, and has more promise for the number eight slot than anyone else, although Sidebottom really did play remarkably well. Thus, I must disagree with Mr Watkins, To me, it is more of a gamble, and a bad one, to play three very similar bowlers on an unhelpful pitch. If you do not think two similar bowlers will do the job, picking three is not likely to help. I would have taken Broad, not Harmison, on the grounds that Harmison is so maddeningly consistently inconsistent. I also suspect that England are trying to rebuild, and that some of the pieces just do not meet requirements. But then, what team can afford to lose bowlers like Flintoff and Simon Jones?

olympian

England's side is unbalanced. Three similar seamers, and a promising spinner is not an adequate bowling attack for these pitches. If two similar seamers won't do the job, three is simply a foolish extravagance. We should have brought in Broad, or, possibly Harmison, for variety. I would have taken Broad, who works hard, is quick, and seems to have the little bit of luck a bowler needs. (I am sure Mr Fraser would agree!) I think that Anderson simply will never fulfil his potential, although why that is remains a mystery. Does he perhaps lack the variety to compensate for some loss of pace? Also, remember that England have lost Simon Jones and Flintoff. That's a serious loss of quality for any bowling attack to endure. At this stage, England seem to be rebuilding, and not all the pieces fit. On this last point, I think Prior might be adequate for number eight in the batting, but he seems short of the class required to bat consistently at six, or even seven, at Test level. His footwork looks clumsy, and he has hard hands when defending. This is simply not the keeper of the future for England. God knows who is, but we don't have the second Gilchrist here! Finally, who would have thought the pitch would behave so nicely on day four, and then become utterly inconsistent on day five?

olympian

Sorry for the double post! I thought the internet had swallowed version one.

Stephen Brenkley

Well said, Olympian. With four bowlers, it was bound to be a risk choosing three not dissimilar swing bowlers. Perhaps it's not pace which is Anderson's problem but an inability assemble a sequence of good deliveries (ie too many four balls). I shouldn't think it will be the same attack in Colombo for the Second Test, though on reflection as I said, the selection of the original squad made balance dashed difficult. The wicketkeeping debate will dog English cricket forever, will it not? Prior is here for now. Runs in the second innings would do him a world of good, but those hard hands will indeed make it difficult.

olympian

I live in hope of seeing a good wicketkeeper who can bat in the England ranks. I also live in hope of reaching a hundred years of age in the West Indies, surrounded by nymphettes, while Bill Gates calls to ask if I can spare a few billion to bail out Microsoft. Am I asking too much?
On a more serious note, I think that England need to be more realistic about the wicketkeeper/batsman equation. Much of the problem arises from the odd frailty of the English batting lineup. For some reason, they bat well enough individually, but seem oddly limited when it comes to building good, long partnerships. Why this is, I am not sure, but it is interesting that so few of them go on after making a century. Is there a lack of self-discipline? Or do they not have the hunger needed to do the extra work? I feel that if our batsmen really buckled down, and were determined to make everything of their talent, we would have much less anxiety about the wicketkeeper having the dexterity of Houdini, coupled with the run-scoring skills of Bradman. We should be able to pick a good wicketkeeper at seven, who can hold a bat and resist valiantly, but who does not drop routine catches or miss stumpings. As matters stand, we contrive to get the worst of both worlds, and the team suffers. I suspect that we never gave Alec Stewart his due - and what we would give to have him back!

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