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30 March 2008

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Chris

I think this makes a lot of sense, the problem being he can only choose English players. Look at Mr Eriksson progress at Man City when he can bring in the players to match the style he wishes to play. Where is the English Elarno or Petrov?

It would then imply he needs to change the whole English football culture to change the way we play from the grass roots. This means results potentially would not be seen for a long time, would he get such time and indeed would he want to commit to such changes.

John

The problem england have is that teams are teams nto 11 individuals. Look at how many times you will hear about a great player, such as Torres: "He's settled in in only X games." Or at Manchester with Nani and Anderson: "This will be their settling in season."

The winners of the last few World Cups and Euros have won because they played as a team. And there is a reason why England don't play as a team. In Italy, defense (and most of the team's roles) are very systematic. Randomly shuffle the defensive players in Serie A between teams and, for the most part, within a week or two they will settle in again perfectly.

Take out Frances core of Zidane, Viera, Thuram and Henri and they are an average team (Yes, I realized it's changed now.) Those four players had an incredible intelligence and ability to govern the game as required. Look at how they adjusted to an Italian team in the last world cup, an Italian team that was better ON AVERAGE than France. France forced Italy into a corner in midfield ITaly was unable to use their width and better 'average' quality.

So what's the problem with England? It's not the quality of the players or the English style. It's simply that because the english style is much more 'intuitive' and each team is very different, England has a much higher learning curve to function as a team. I think if Steve Mac had taken only championship players but taken the same players every time, they would have done better. Or if he had selected all the english players from a mostly English team and just filled in the chinks as needed.

mike

Are you saying that a core of Gerrard,J.cole,Rooney,Hargreaves,Terry,Ferdinand are just not good enough these are players that could walk into any top flight team in Europe, not to mention Lampard. As for saying Drogba is the best player at Chelsea I think you find that it is P.Chec when he is missing they struggle. That is the weakness in England a descent goal keeper. You talk about Italian defense but fail to mention they have the best keepers in the world that is the heart of every great defense. If Coudachini played for England we would be at the Euro's no question.

John

Mike,

I don't know if you are refering to my post but I am saying that until a core of Gerrard, J.cole, Rooney, Hargreaves, Terry, and Ferdinand have the chance to play to gather and form a team out of themselves, they will not be a team. Nations that have a club team style that allows quicker intergration togather have the advantage.

Mike

Look at either Milan side /serie A, overflowing with imported players yet Italy are the world champions. we need a less aggressive media and a FA that is not trying to recreate 1966 all over again, it is time to move on. The FA has made more ricks than any England goalkeeper yet they are not targeted as a problem. The handling of Sven's successor being a case in point.

Ashley Grimes

Look at Rooney's performance at the weekend. With passing of decent quality from the midfield (from the English Carrick and Scholes) and runners alongside him (yes, the foreigners) he was a good player again.

But while there are enough English passers of the ball of quality (the aforementioned plus Gerrard, Lampard, Cole and others), I can't think of too many English forwards of speed, skill and wit. Perhaps Gerrard further forward, perhaps Walcott one distant day, but in Rooney we have got one quality English forward and the urgency is to find someone to play alongside or around him.

What I don't understand about Capello's choices so far is that surely we now all know that the guy to lead from number nine isn't going to be Crouch or Owen (no any more), but these seem to be his only alternatives to a badly supported Rooney up front on his own. He might as well try Aglonbahor or Ashley Young because they could hardly be worse.

Nick

As has been well-documented, English footballers tend not to have much technical ability on the ball. It has been that way for ages. When they are young they will play for local clubs where from a very early age they are taught the merits of discipline (positional), hard tackling but not dribbling their way out of tight positions (hoof it out for a throw-in if in danger) nor the merits of developing any sort of adaptability to different positions. The results are plain to see. Yes Gerrard can ping the ball 40 yards and has a mean strike, but he and most of England's other best players are unlikely to retain the ball very well.

Jack

Crocodile tears. Money was the incentive to engineer the present crisis. The Premiership will allow no going back. This means that any damage done to the national side - Wenger says an Englishman should manage England, yet ask him to provide English players and he says 'Racism starts here' - will be resolved only one way: make foreign players eligible to play for the country where they earn a living. Another backward step for nationhood, but a giant leap for nation-hating one-world fanatics like the Independent.

Paolo

I think England need an intelligent midfield leader to interpret (in footballing terms) Don Fabio's ideas on the pitch. An English Albertini - is it possible?

Interesting article on thinking footballers here i just came across: http://gentrystyle.com

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Fabio is the man I believe. We cant write off every man that takes the job. Apart from the tactical side, he is a manager that will get players working their socks off. He is used to working with big name players and isn't affraid to punish any player. Even though England have lost to France, i have noticed an improvement in Englands play and their style is much better.

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