England seem poised for victory in the Third Test, which would level the series, but that will not prevent inquests, inquiries and investigations into the state of the side after a sloppy fourth day. The tourists dropped chance after chance in a wretched fielding display, which might not have been helped by a typical Wellington wind, but it failed utterly to support some occasionally splendid bowling. Angus Fraser will probably agree that England will almost certainly win it some time on the fifth day but should already be heading for Napier.

Had England's fielding been better the Test would have been over by now, no doubt about it. They missed five catches, a run out and a rather straightforward stumping in, as you said, a pretty sloppy display.
What idiot said 'catches win matches' it has been the opposite way around in this series. Two of the catches were easy Paul Collingwood's off Ian Bell at second slip and Kevin Pietersen's at mid off. The other three, to Tim Ambrose standing up, Alastair Cook diving to his left and Ian Bell diving forward were hard but England laid down a marker in the first Test and have failed to live up to it here. It highlights why they are such a frustrating side to watch.
But the groundfielding was poor too - more fours going through the legs of fielders.
Even so have played pretty well. Broad was excellent today, he really looked the part.
Posted by: Angus Fraser | 16 March 2008 at 09:13 AM
Putting aside the fielding for a moment, there was the distinct impression that this truly was the dawn of a new era for England. Anderson, Broad and not least Sidebottom looked like an attack which will take England places. It's exciting, isn't it?
Posted by: Stephen Brenkley | 16 March 2008 at 09:19 AM
It is exciting. I was quite exciting at the end of last summer against India in the way England's attck worked. Then it contained Anderson, Tremlett and Sidebottom.
We have been saying that there was something wrong with the England Test side but it seems a fresher more vibrant team, even though the fielding has been poor. Is it because they are winning, or is it the excitement that fresher, more eager, younger faces bring allowing them to win. I'm not sure but, as you said, it feels better.
Hopefully these three will remain fit, gain the confidence and experience they need and take lots of wickets. Suddenly we are talking about what players might do in the future rather than worrying whether they ever be as good as they once were. It is a big change of attitude for everyone.
Posted by: Angus Fraser | 16 March 2008 at 09:27 AM
OK Gus. How good can they be? And is Tremlett with his length and bounce perhaps waiting in the wings?
Posted by: Stephen Brenkley | 16 March 2008 at 09:30 AM
That's putting me on the spot. Sidebottom has done better than many of us ever imagined. He is 30 and could possibly play for another three or four years. That equates, fitness permitting, to another 30-35 Tests @ 3-4 wickets a Test. Sidebottom could be 150 plus wicket-taker at an average of say 28-30 - pretty good.
Anderson is still only 25 so who knows how much Test cricket he could play. He currently has 68 wickets so he could easily become a 200 wicket plus bowler. But his average, currently in the high 30's needs to come down.
Broad is 21 so he could be around for a decade. Again he could easily be a 200 plus wicket-taker. But like all these things there is injury and form to worry about. But if they all fulfil their potential, and the likes of Tremlett etc continue to push England will have a good seam attack for some time to come.
Monty should only get better too. I suppose the only thing they need is an all-rounder but thye are hard to come by.
Posted by: Angus Fraser | 16 March 2008 at 09:40 AM
I admire Sidebottom tremendously. Cast out of the side for apparently not being quick enough under what we might call the previous regime, he is a real craftsman. A bowler's bowler, you might say.
What England shouldn't do is waste time trying to fit in an all-rounder who isn't up to it. There was a bit of that post-Botham and it didn't work. Here's hoping of course that we don't need a new Flintoff because we might get the old Flintoff back.
Now, the fielding - it seems to be a concern. Panesar, I'm afraid looks woeful and it isn't good enough.
Posted by: Stephen Brenkley | 16 March 2008 at 09:48 AM
It was not good enough and the ironic cheers have started again. Panesar had got rid of them last year but, no doubt, they will be back again this summer. All you can do is continually work hard with him and hope he improves. England have not got any serious spinners that will replace him.
Flintoff's return will be interesting because England would be worse off with a Flintoff who can do a job but not one as well as he once did. If he replaced a batsman the batting would be weaker and the same with the bowling. Flintoff has to return capable of doing what he once did if England are going to benefit from his presence.
Posted by: Angus Fraser | 16 March 2008 at 09:54 AM
Generally, the new selectors have to avoid picking players on reputation. A little too much of that has gone in the recent past.
Hugh Morris, the new managing director of England cricket, is in New Zealand at the moment, Gus isn't he? Much to say about things or playing his cards close to his chest as is Hugh's wont?
Posted by: Stephen Brenkley | 16 March 2008 at 10:01 AM
We have not seen him yet, but the performance and the result here has probably made his conversations with Peter Moores and Michael Vaughan a little easier. Giles Clarke has been knocking around to. We will speak to him when he returns from Dubai.
He is a beauty. Now he is suggesting that English cricket tries to copy the IPL, four England qualified players, four under 23's and three overseas players. Then we expand the Twenty20. Talk about killing the goose. He must think players can play every day of the year without getting tired or injured. he may have a good business brain but he does not seem to understand cricket.
Posted by: Angus Fraser | 16 March 2008 at 10:07 AM
That was madness wasn't it? Sometimes, these guys don't get it do they? Twenty20 has been perfect for English cricket - and in fact they've probably already increased the amount of it by too much. If they think fancy dan overseas players and artificial assembly of teams will persuade people to watch they're wrong. The all-singing, all-dancing Indian Premier League may not work and England isn't India. Giles really ought to be told now.
Posted by: Stephen Brenkley | 16 March 2008 at 10:11 AM
Sorry, but this gets my goat. Don't the ECB and assorted other people know why the phrase 'Keep 'em wanting more' was invented?
Posted by: Stephen Brenkley | 16 March 2008 at 10:13 AM
Twenty20 in England has been a godsend. If it can get Middlesex and the MCC consistently working closely together it must be good. We have it about right in England for England.
the grounds aren't big enough to pack thousands more in and I doubt if the interest would increase any more than it is. the only way extra money could be raised is through television and the last thing the ECB want to do is hack Sky off by threatening to bring an Asian TV company as a competitor. Without them English cricket really would be struggling. And Sky already have a lengthy deal with the ECB so how could they change it. As you said, it is madness.
I don't know whether Clarke means it or whether he just says these things to provoke a reaction. I might be giving him more credit than he deserves here though. My fear is that he judges the success of his time in charge solely by the increase in turnover of the ECB. Money is important but it is not everything.
Posted by: Angus Fraser | 16 March 2008 at 10:19 AM
Talking of money, the players seem sensible in this regard. There doesn't seem much loose talk about going to make a quick buck in the Indian leagues and their loyalty, expected as it should be, is important.
Posted by: Stephen Brenkley | 16 March 2008 at 10:22 AM
Not openly there isn't, but I think a few would like to be in dialogue with those in charge to see if they could fit it in at some time in the future.
John Bracewell said something interesting the other night at a function and it slightly changed my perception here in New Zealand anyway.
NZ don't have a congested fixture list and therefore they could quite easily organise their cricket to allow their players to play in the IPL. He is very keen for NZ players to go to the IPL because they can all get a huge payrise and earn lots of money and it does not cost NZ cricket a dollar. It would also encourage younger athletes to go to cricket rather than rugby, as most of them do, because the money in cricket - IPL plus NZ contract - compares well with what the top rugby players earn.
The only problem arises when the NZ tours and IPL comflict, as they do when NZ come to England in April/May. then the players have to make a decision, and it is a decision that can have major consequences on a team.
Posted by: Angus Fraser | 16 March 2008 at 10:33 AM
Yes, the ICC bigwigs have an important meeting in Dubai this week when scheduling among other things is talked about. Doubtless, it's a subject to which we shall return.
Posted by: Stephen Brenkley | 16 March 2008 at 10:39 AM
I fear that Giles Clarke will be pretty ruthless in terms of pushing through what he wants and he will always by nature eventually succumb to the "lure of the lira"; a few years back hardly any of us would have believed that cricket would not be on live terrestrial TV these days, and yet here we stand having promoted the very guy we had castigated and character assasinated (Clarke mentioned he had been referred to as a cross between Hitler and Genghis Khan) only a couple of years previously! He obviously has very thick skin.
You would think that the rest of the ECB coard, ie those chairman who actually have played the game and canvas opinion of their players would have the strength to bend his ear and make him see some sense.
I watched a Hugh Morris interview with David Gower 2 days ago, and he mentioned that the much fabled domestic structure review group are still reviewing, albeit with a different chairman after Hugh moved on! I can only see them tinkering with the veneer of the issue though, ie starting 4 days matches a day or two earlier so you don't have a one day game dove tailed on the end of the match. But I can't see any ground breaking changes coming in for 2009.
There was a great piece about Clarke and his IPL vision by Christopher Martin Jenkins regarding an "urgent press release" sent out by the ECB board to the domestic review group wanting them to put the 20twenty issue at the top of their priority list asap! It almost beggars belief that we are heading in a direction of pre Lord MacLaurin scheduling where we had players like Andy Caddick playing 17 out of 21 days cricket on the couty curcuit. Is this chairman's favourite film "The madness of King George"?
Posted by: Yatish | 16 March 2008 at 01:18 PM
The saddest thing about Clarke is that he so obviously believes that only he, at long last, understands how to make English cricket viable! This, coupled with a very undemocratic, non-grassroots structure for the game, is likely to lead to an elite who want to make money, and who don't understand that many of cricket's more lasting fans are the one who cherish Test cricket, love the drawn-out, glorious struggle for supremacy, and who feel that some Twenty20 may be fun, but it simply isn't as good qualitatively as the five day epic. Part of the joy of Test cricket was, and should be, its relative rarity. If there were basically 7-8 Tests in a year, generally the players would be fit, you would have a treat in store, and there would not be the growing sense of "Oh, the treadmill grinds forward another inch towards higher productivity for the master plan".
I grew up listening to Test Match Special, and there was nothing like the thrill of waking up early, before school, and hearing the much-loved voices describing how things were in India, Australia, remote parts of the world. Much of that was the sense of rarity, that each Test was something to treasure. You can't get that when it feels as if there is a Test every week, that Twenty20 occupies most free days, and there are so many one day internationals that you feel Dante missed something in his Inferno. I can see those guilty of simony being chained in burning seats and compelled to watch a meaningless butchery of a great game - for all eternity! Doubtless, to make matters worse, they will have to listen to Australian commentators. Perhaps Mr Clarke should be warned of the fate that awaits him? As for the idea of imitating the BCCI - God help us! Even the Indian press seem thoroughly unimpressed by their greed, nepotism and arrogance!
If Clarke wants to do something to benefit the English game, I would suggest that he starts by resolving the preposterous situation whereby people living abroad can get Test Match Special on the internet for home games, but not, mysteriously, when England tour. This is simply beyond bizarre. Surely it can't be that expensive to get the rights? TMS has been cherished by the more serious England fans for decades, and is loved around the world. That's the sort of thing that matters, not a string of irrelevant games that exhibit the trivialities of cricket. Play some Twenty20 if you must, as a taster for the groundlings, but in God's name, don't lose the things that matter more.
Returning to matters in hand, England should win this, but until Oram fell, I was starting to wonder if England had dropped too many chances. Yes, it was windy, but then, you get windy days in England too, and players ought to be a little better prepared. Is it me, or is Pietersen not quite the fielder he should be? Thank God for Broad and Sidebottom, who did an excellent job. Funny, that for so long we did not hear of Sidebottom - and yet we shall miss him terribly when he goes. O Duncan, you do have some things to answer for!
Posted by: nickzi | 16 March 2008 at 01:44 PM
Yatish. I too grew up like you watching proper quality cricket and listening to the great commentators. Now there's so much, its meaningless despite the media trying to hype it up. It died a long time ago as a sport and is now a business. Only the money matters.
My answer -I don't watch or listen. There are better and more satisfying things to do with your life.
Keith
Posted by: Keith Fletcher | 16 March 2008 at 05:50 PM
Keith, I think you were addressing nickzi, not yatish *s*. Cheer up! There are still some great games out there - and I think the sport that gave us Ashes 2005 still has a lot to give. Yes, the money men are scum, but thankfully they don't get to play. I think the best way for us to revive cricket is to go the grassroots way, build it up from below, and then boot the corrupt money-wallahs out.
Posted by: Mike Brearley | 16 March 2008 at 06:00 PM
Gentleman, it looks as though our board's gluttony of "365 international cricket" is amazingly catching on with the money generators in Australia and India.
As an aside of next year's Ashes, and looking at how Australia have pretty much had 4/5 months off every year for the past couple of years, I believe have been scheduled to play 20 test matches over 2008!! This must be a record of some sorts.
And this was before the Pakistan tour was "postponed", although likely moved to November/March. How I feel sorry for our antepodean friends arriving in England in May'09 defending the Ashes on the back of this schedule, and having spent March in our mother-in-law's top holiday destination.
Heaven forbid any injuries occurring to the core of their team a la England 2006/7...
Posted by: Yatish | 16 March 2008 at 08:47 PM
Mike, when you say that building from the grassroots up is the way to go to revive English cricket, do you think Mike Gatting in his "supremo" role overseeing all age groups of cricket in this country is a) the right man for the job; (I know Nasser wanted Mark Ramprakash) and b) Does he have the "power" to inflict the changes needed?
I know Mike has spoken about a "vision" of their being a greater link between club cricket and first class counties - like the grade system in Australia.
Posted by: Yatish | 16 March 2008 at 08:52 PM