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16 June 2008

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SP

"But you just know that if the Dutch are seen to toss this game away, the French and Italians will cry foul" - and the English wouldn't if the same thing happened to us??

Rogier

Difficult situation: keep up the momentum or be calculating.

The things is, the way the Dutch "substitutes" have played (Van Persie, Robben), seeing some of the opportunity greedy talent on the bench (Huntelaar, De Zeeuw, Heitinga et al) and the irresistible flow the Dutch are in...

Van Basten could field a reserve team and we would still win ;-)

Go Oranje!!!!

ML

Exactly, what Domenech ignores with all his moaning is the fact that had either Italy or France beaten Romania then they wouldn't have to worry about Holland going easy on them - it's a problem of their own making because they didn't do their job. Romania deserve to go through for taking points off both World Cup finalists and I hope they do.

Paul D. Waite

Of course, Holland could lose to Romania tomorrow, then win the quarter-final, then lose to Romania again in the semis. I’m sure any team in Euro 2004 would have wanted to face the Greeks in the final, and look how that worked out.

Howard

How Netherlands approach the game may depend on the appetite of the 150,000 Dutch fans in and around Bern. If they just want to party, and why not, they would happily sing and dance their way through a 2 - 1 defeat. I think VanB will go all out for a win with a (so-called) reserve XI, but if the game gets too tasty in the second half, he will be sensible and hold the Oranje back. LOve to see the faces of the French if they beat Italy...and go out. Oh, joy!

Danny

In sports winning is everything. Van Basten is a winner, Holland will never lose on purpose ever again (they made a 0-0 deal with Ireland in the worldcup of Italy 1990). The dutch prefer to lose beatifully above winning ugly. That's why they hardly ever win anything. I'm glad that's the way it is, or that's the way I am.

forza olanda

Cornelius

Nobody seems to remember that Holland met Romania in the qualifying group G and lost one game (in Romania, 0-1) and drew at home (0-0), so why should it be so surprising if Holland didn't make it against Romania?

maroule

Losing "on purpose" against Rumania because you think they are a weaker team would as stupid as this article;
- on face value, it is foolish assume Rumania is weaker than France or Italy (in fact it's probably better). The point about Greece by Paul is well made.
- Playing them in semi final would mean the dutch record against them would be 2 defeats and one draw... great way to make sure Rumania's confidence is sky-high
- and yes, the momentum would be broken, not even mentionning the dutchies reputation among the neutrals... if they play well and lose, fine, if they are seen to throw the macth away, the buzz will be very negative... just a question of basic fairness...

Iko Nal

1) Neither France nor Italy would even consider keeping the Dutch in the tournament if they where in the Dutch current situation.
2) The Dutch replacement team is of very high quality and very eager to earn a spot in the starting-11.
3) With Spain in such a good shape it is actually in the Dutch best interest to have a very strong team play against the Spanish. A tough match for Spain would cost them more energy and perhaps a few cards.

Luc

What a load of rubbish. WHy would Holland fear meeting France or Italy again? They have resoundingly beaten them once already.
You say "Romania is lower-rank". That's funny, Romania beat Holland in the qualifying round to be top of their group!

Mario Del Duca

Interesting article. HOWEVER, in Euro 2000 Italy won their first two games and by the time the 3rd game against Sweden came along they had already won the group. Sweden needed to win or (from memory) draw and yet Italy honoured the competition and played rested, motivated players to win the game and knock out Sweden. Not the same dynamic as Holland knocking out Italy or France but you should not make assumptions that Italians would be so Machiavellian to do such a thing when history points to the fact that, when they were in a similar situation, they did not do so.
Anyway, Holland won, Italy won... now for the interesting part of the tournament when it's not all about pretty attacking football...

Tico

"They could be one Spanish collapse away from having to play a Group C team again, and they would much rather that was Romania than either of the other two."

and

"His Netherlands team are better than them both – you need look no further than the 3-0 and 4-1 scorelines by which they triumphed over them."

You are contradicting yourself. If the Netherlands in this tournament have shown better form than both Italy and France (which I agree on), surely there is no reason to fear playing them a second time round? For the Dutch to deliberately have Romania win the game against them means they would secretly lack confidence, which is far from what anyone has just been able to see during their matches.

De Belle

Indeed, the Dutch would rather play beautifull and lose than to play ugly and win.....
But why choose, just go on playing beatifull and beating anyone in their path?

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