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Karligula

The only objection to eating meat so far as I can see is that you have to kill an animal to get it. If you can grow meat in a vat, no animal gets harmed, so why shouldn't animal liberation folk get behind it? And I still get my beef burgers, so everyone's happy ;-)

Dodgy Geezer

"The only objection to eating meat so far as I can see is that you have to kill an animal to get it. If you can grow meat in a vat, no animal gets harmed, so why shouldn't animal liberation folk get behind it? "

Why can't you use the same argument to claim that lifelike cartoon drawings of kiddie porn are ok?

(answers on a postcard...)

Ka

This is old news, I'm afraid. PETA's widely scorned amongst AR vegans for its sensationalism, ill-considered campaigns, and sexism in advertising. And it clearly hasn't thought this one out, either. Even if growing meat in vats was feasible, it will never be economically viable - just how much lab equipment would you need to do it on any kind of scale? - and it detracts from the point that we just don't need meat to live healthily. We in the global north are not living in extreme conditions, we are surrounded by perfectly good sources of nutrition that don't involve destroying local ecosystems and the planet, inhumane treatment of animals (including people involved in the crappiest, most dangerous farming, processing, and packing jobs), or making ourselves ill.

Seven times more crops are being used to feed farmed animals than are going to biofuels. Livestock farming is a bigger contributor to CO2 emissions than aviation. It's one of the biggest polluters of air, water, and land. It's the biggest cause of desertification on the planet. It's frankly out of control. But we don't like to deal with it because food is about identity: familial, class, regional, ethnic, religious, national identities are all bound up with the food we eat. Like issues around sex and shelter, criticisms of our fundamental assumption that it's our god-given right to eat as much meat and dairy as we want bypasses the logic centres of the brain and goes straight to the knee-jerk reflex.

PETA needs to spend its money on reminding people about these facts. Remind us that their diets have changed out of all recognition over 40 years. Remind us that we get the environment we deserve. Remind us of the many, many studies on culture and intelligence and empathy amongst non-human animals. Remind us to take personal responsibility for our actions. Empower us to make good choices. We clearly need that kind of help.

Chillstar

The more I read about PETA, the crazier they seem to me.

I wish more people like Ka (above) were in positions to educate the masses about why eating meat is not a good idea. What a well written and informed post. Thank you.

“Nothing will benefit human health and increase chances of survival for life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet.” -Albert Einstein

rob

As far as im aware cattle eat all the by-products from our food factories. These include all food types from the beverage industry(brewers gains) to bread factories.If cattle werent around to eat all this stuff then it would be tipped at landfill (and we all know that landfill is another major source of methane). Better have cattle eat it than incur the cost of tipping which would have the consequence of driving up the cost of the original product and over-fill already full landfill sites.

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