Have Your Say: The world's rubbish dump
Today in The Independent we report on a 'plastic soup' in the Pacific Ocean which has engulfed an area twice the size of the US – and is set to double in the next 10 years. Could we be doing more to recycle items of plastic? Or should we be forced to cut back on our use of disposable plastics in favour of more biodegradable products. Let us know what you think

You could start by removing plastic from food packaging, all of it. Banning plastic bags at super markets. Of course it'll never happen because there's no alternatives. Super market shopping could done using the trolley to take products to the car. And then use those useful collapsible crates to pack. They're easier to carry into the home and can be used over and over again. Once upon a time and not sooh long ago we never had plastic bags to carry our shopping, now they're everywhere. All my plastic is packed for recycling the normal rubbish goes into a wheelie bin. I also have a sink waste disposal machine. We will just have to try harder, all of us.
Posted by: Alan | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 08:02 AM
I thought such a report would have the usual cries of 'ban the bag'. However as your report makes clear, disposable plastic bags don't seem to be the major items which comprise marine garbage. Are we going to ban all the items identified from the stomach contents of dead albatrosses? A sad state of affairs, but one with which we have to accept as the small price we pay for modern living.
Posted by: L Saunders | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 08:17 AM
I thought such a report would have the usual cries of 'ban the bag'. However as your report makes clear, disposable plastic bags don't seem to be the major items which comprise marine garbage. Are we going to ban all the items identified from the stomach contents of dead albatrosses? A sad state of affairs, but one with which we have to accept as the small price we pay for modern living.
Posted by: L Saunders | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 08:17 AM
The US is about 10 million squarte kilometres in size. Twice that is about 20 million square kilometres. 500 million tonnes of plastic waste - and I assume that is the usual Green hype rather than an actual figure - is 25 tonnes per square kilometre. A square kilometre is a million square metres. Or 0.025 grams oer square metre unless I have counted on my fingers incorrectly. By way of comparison a cubic metre is fresh distilled water weighs a tonne.
This is soup in the same sense homeopathic medicine is medicine.
Posted by: Benjamin Kirby | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 09:15 AM
I'm horrified that this vast waste dump is only coming to light now and that more is not being done by governments and global conservation bodies to ensure the long term survival of the planet (and thus us as a species). We continue to be so blinkered. It is simple - reduce, reuse, recycle. But having let this sea of garbage get out of control only the scientists can tell us whether drastic measures now need to be taken. We managed perfectly well before the invention of plastics. There are safe, viable alternatives. We just need to stop being so bone idle, open our eyes to the hard reality and DO something!!
Posted by: B Wijnberg | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 09:20 AM
I'm sorry to say this L Saunders, but I don't belive that dead albatrosses and other animals are the price we have to pay for modern living. Huge soups of plastics are the result of decades of ignorance and carelessness. I remember my mother clipping me round the ear for dropping litter in the street when I was a kid, now I see parents in the street in front of their kids doing the same, but we all know that.
In this modern age we talk about, surely we have the means to solve these problems, it just appears that the people that actually do have the power to really change things don't do so, why?...money, greed, profit today, the future somebody else can worry about.
So while I recycle my plastic or my glass, governments prefer not to solve the problems by banning plastic bags, or plastic wrappings on products. No alternatives? come on! While people talk and stall we continue to have our plastic soups.
Posted by: kevan kite | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 09:34 AM
The death of millions of sea birds and more than 100,000 marine mammals every year is "the small price we pay for modern living". Our approach to modern living is responsible for smog, acid rain, holes in the ozone layer, increases in illnesses from asthma to certain cancers and mass extinction to name a few. And that's not to mention the huge and yet to be realised impacts of climate change.
It's not about regressing to a stoneage like existence, but we need to start understanding our effects on the one small planet we have and take responsibility for our impact.
That post represents the kind of blinkered, short-sighted, self-interested attitude that got us into this situation and it won't be the approach that fixes it.
Posted by: A Robinson | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 09:52 AM
Yes, we should be doing more to recycle plastics. Many local councils still have inadequate plastic collection or drop-off facilities. Supermarkets still use ridiculous quantities of plastic packaging - items that I avoid buying where I can. While bags, bottles and packaging are bad, disposal of plastic-encased electrical products must be mushrooming. For less than £40 you can buy an inkjet printer. If you are lucky, will last for two years. It will then be buried in the ground, where it will stay for potentially hundreds of years. With cheap Far Eastern manufacturing, the distinction between products and consumables is becoming blurred. Producers need to provide responsible options, consumers need to choose them, and everyone needs to clear up the mess we've made already.
Posted by: Jamie | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 09:56 AM
We should be looking to either remove packaging wherever possible, in this the supermarkets & manufacturers must either play a part or be legislated to force them to do so. We must also take on a culture shift and not expect to have food stuffs come in shrink wrap, all plastic where possible must be biodegradeable and also be proved to be non-toxic when degraded, we must understand there is a price to everything packaging is not 'free'. As for scare stries i am happt to err on the side of caution every time.
Posted by: Peter Eaves | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 10:13 AM
This is the result of something like 7 decades of our failure to recycle so much of our plastic waste.
I suppose if we hadnt dumped it there we would either have incinerated it or buried it in landfill - rather than recycled it?
But - incineration would have produced even more CO2!
And if we had used it for landfill the land available for that would have been even scarcer than it is now!
But maybe then we would have started recycling our other rubbish a lot sooner?!!
Lets look on the bright side - at least the Carbon in it is all sequestered safely.
Except for the effect on sea creatures and birds, and higher up the food chain.............
The trouble will really start when someone suggests we clean it all up now and incinerate it - rather than recycle it, like we should have done in the first place!!
Posted by: Bill Dowling | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 10:25 AM
2 questions:
1 - Why is this a front page story (been around for years)?
2 - Why can't I find an acknowledgement of the Australian Associated Press who produced this particular version 2-3 days ago (according to the acknowledgements in the Aussie papers running it yesterday)?
Ok - 3 questions:
3 - All my hyperlinks to your pre-redesign news articles are still broken following your overhaul. Any idea when they are going to get mended?
Cheers
Matt Wardman
Posted by: Matt | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 10:38 AM
One further comment.
Quite clearly, all governments should pass legislation banning the use of any plastic material that cannot be recycled economically starting from, say, 1 years time.
We should all start recycling all the plastic waste that can be recycled by the same deadline.
Posted by: Bill Dowling | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 10:38 AM
The worlds rubbish dump? Why am I not suprised? That's what we humans do, dump our rubbish out of sight and nine times out of ten somewhere where we can't get to it. Because it is a "SAFE" site and nearly always in or under water.God knows what the legacy is that we leave future generations.One day we humans might find a way to use our brains for the benefit of mankind. Of course I joke, it's cheaper to abuse than to use.
Posted by: John Castle | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 11:26 AM
An old story but an issue non the less, and plastic bags are without a doubt a sin of modern times. Its time for supermarkets to begin investing in alternatives and implementing them. Excess packaging (like bananas in what can only be described as plastic coffins) must be made illegal, supermarkets must understand their role in setting a greener trend. How far away are we from rocket blasting rubbish into space? At the current rate, not far at all.
Posted by: Balley Shekhon | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 11:36 AM
OK, who is the culprit for polluting our oceans? We are being forced to recycle, but what is the use of recycling if the recycled is going to end up in the ocean? Until we know what the main problem is, we can not come up with the solutions for all our problems which is banning everything. Is that a solution?
Posted by: Tizab | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 11:37 AM
I recall reading extensive internet articles about this around two years ago. Perhaps if less media time was squandered on global warming fear mongering there might be more space available to allocate to inconvenient disasters that have been and are occurring now and are impacting upon our environment. How easy it is to conjure what might be in the future while ignoring so many current and devastatingly gross acts of pollution that we can do something about.
Posted by: MB | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 12:35 PM
I live in Inverness capital of Highlands, Scotland yet there are no facilities for recycling plastic. The end user has no option when did you last buy a litre of milk that was not sold in a plastic bottle?
Posted by: Gareth Hardacre | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 12:38 PM
With rising sea levels caused by climate change we will be literally drowning in plastic. Oil is causing both problems and until we get this, we are going to be suffering seriously obvious consequences.
Posted by: Lee Dalton | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 12:49 PM
Of course we have to cut back on our plastic usage, and focus on re-using what is an essential. I am repeating many other people, but because it is a valid point - packaging. Everywhere are packs of four potatoes, apples etc in a plastic tray, wrapped in clear plastic, then put in a plastic bag. If everyone just picked loose fruit and veg and used their own fabric shopping bag, the difference would be enormous, both in energy consumed to manufacture the packaging and the waste. Industrial plastic waste is obviously a massive culprit that needs to be addressed, but it is silly to downplay a single person's actions. People argue that they'll won't choose alternatives to flying for environmental reasons because those flights would be going anyway, but if passenger demand goes down, then flights are taken off the schedule and there are only 2 flights to India per day instead of 4!
It seems too often that people use the excuse of being a pebble in the ocean to act irresponsibly. We have so much freedom of choice in europe, there is no real excuse to continue doing something that you suspect is wrong.
Posted by: Tanith | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 12:53 PM
Re prior comment by Benjamin Kirby above who calculated "0.025 grams per square metre unless I have counted on my fingers incorrectly...This is soup in the same sense homeopathic medicine is medicine".
Yes, you did count incorrectly Benjamin - correct result is 250 grams per square meter (not 0.025 as you stated) - your'e out by a factor of 1,000,000. If you're going to engage in "scientific" sounding debate please 1) Give your sources 2) Check your figures :-)
My figures and sources are below.
Continental US land area is about 1 million square kilometres in size (Source: Central Intelligence Agency World Fact Book - https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html#Geo). Twice that is about 2 million square kilometres. 500 million tonnes of plastic waste is 250 tonnes per square kilometre. Now, a tonne = 1 million grams & a square kilometre is 1 million square metres. Dividing 250,000,000 by 1,000,000, we get 250 grams per square metre.
Posted by: Colm de Buitléar | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 01:13 PM
Things can change. Have a look at this for what can be done with biodegradable plastic for packaging and bags.
http://www.portlandtribune.com/sustainable/story.php?story_id=117831066690048400
Maybe our supermarkets will catch on to being seen as more environmentally friendly can be good for profits and start making some changes.
Posted by: Mark | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 01:23 PM
I think there is a significant slice of the population now, who are more than willing to make the reduce, reuse, recycle mantra a part of their everyday life. However, when it comes down to practical application I feel there is a huge knowledge gap in relation to the symbols used on packaging to denote its recyclability. At the point of discarding the materials, it's difficult to know what can and can't put forward for recycling. At the point of purchase, similarly, the inscrutable symbols on packaging leave it difficult to make an ethical choice in what to buy. In this way, I think we all need to brush up on our symbols - even to the extent of including it in school lessons. It should become second nature to our children to make consumer choices based as much on recyclability, as on the colour-coded straps for sugar, fat and salt.
Actually, what would be great to see, is the option to drag your shopping to a corner of the store and meticulously unpack all your stuff, reload it all into a big cardboard box, and dump your packaging detritus in the store from which you've bought it. I think, after a week, a supermarket choking on its own packaging might rethink its approach to it. (Alternatively, if you are jaded by constant talk of academic consultations and have become stats-blind, take a leaf from my mother's book who, in protest, turns her carrier bags inside out as she packs her shopping and refuses to give the stores the free advertising)
Posted by: Amanda Hill | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 01:27 PM
We are obsessed with packaging and wrapping. On a recent short flight from Heathrow to Copenhagen I was amazed at how much rubbish accumulated on my lap. The "meal" had an outer plastic package inside which was a cardboard tray. This housed two individually wrapped sandwiches (in clear plastic). There was a serviette in a plastic packet. A plastic knife, fork and spoon nestled in another plastic package. To get at the sugar, stirrer and salt and pepper involved opening yet another plastic packet. The milk of course came in one of those little, yes you've guessed it, plastic containers, as did the orange juice. With my free newspaper, by the time I'd finished, my lap looked like a gerbil's bedroom! Multiply this by the number of passengers/flights worldwide, the daily mountain must be enormous. It has certainly made me think!
Posted by: Alyn Edwards | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 01:37 PM
So many have already said this - but - TAKE cloth bags to the greengrocer's/butcher's/baker's (if you have time - I know many haven't) and avoid the supermarkets, or use them less. BADGER your local council for more recycling (ours doesn't do plastic) and follow it up as far as you can to see where it goes. BADGER the government to stop kow-towing to business interests and make them responsible for their plastic pollution. ASK (politely, but insist) that shop assistants remove unwanted packaging at point of sale. I've had great success with this, especially as I play the apologetic/hesitant role. I know others who have the guts to hold up the queue at the supermarket as they do this. To those who think destruction of species/habitat is a small price to pay - get out more. Go and see some species in their natural habitat, or better still, volunteer to help out those who DO care about them. Take your kids with you - it might be their last chance to see these creatures.
Posted by: maggie wright | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 02:09 PM
I have just launched my skincare range based on sustainability principles, from content to packaging. I avoided plastic as much as I could , and also metallic foils so that the paper can be recycled. I am getting feedback saying the packaging is not posh enough for the product position, and I wonder about the green dilemma and feasability: is sustainable packaging or green packaging viable in marketing terms? Do people add value to efforts like mine? Sustainable materials will never look and feel as posh or nice as standard plastic materials. Many companies would like to be greener but the reality is that it may cheapen the product
Posted by: Barbara Olioso | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 02:34 PM
The government needs to get a grip.. forcing supermarkets to make biodegradable products and ease off altogether on packaging..if we could leave our packaging in the supermarket after we done the shopping surely something will happen... its also in our hands .. not to buy from supermarkets and shop locally and farmers markets as much as possible...
Posted by: sabine crittall | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 02:39 PM
Entirely agree with some of above comments - Government needs to be confronted more by the (willing) public to put in place suitable legislation about biodegradable packing sooner rather than later - I recall some 'soft' approach appearing in the broadsheet press c. 3-4 months ago that the U.K. was 'committed' to reduce the number of wasteful plastic packaging particularly amongst the food industry by 2015 or later.... That is just crazy!
Our local council does collect recyclable plastic. I did actually contact them recently, asking where the recyclable material ends up - but I'm still waiting for a straight forward reply!
Posted by: Eva Leck | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 04:03 PM
Over the last year or so I've noticed the odd food package in various shops made from corn. The packaging which looks like clear plastic, is non-toxic and can be composted. I imagine it will cost the supermarkets more to buy this type of packaging but the vast profits they declare every year should not be that affected. Shouldn't all food packaging be made from this corn product - provided the supply of corn is monitored and regulated to avoid further environmental damage and exploitation? As long as the governments of western society continue to accept funding from corporate giants and is therefore obliged to go by their rules, then nothing will be solved. The buying public will have to pressure the corporations themselves to lead the way.
Posted by: D Vandenburg | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 04:10 PM
In our area only plastics bearing a 1 or 2 symbol can be recycled. Either we need recycling facilities for all types of plastics, which would make it easier and therefore more achievable or manufacturers must be restricted to using those types of plastics which can be recycled at present.
The public can only do so much. Organisations such as offices, restaurants, hospitals, schools, shops etc. must be encouraged to play their part in the recycling exercise.
The whole recycling ethos needs to be more co-ordinated with a sustainable infrastructure developed at a national level.
Posted by: Shona Greig | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 04:57 PM
What are we waiting for? There is no room on the planet left for us to blithely dump on the proverbial neighbor's yard. It shouldn't take rocket science or new technology to solve the trash problem. We need to educate ourselves and shame governments into legislating decent human practices. It is our problem, collectively.
Posted by: Sunera Rahman | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 05:20 PM
Yet another nightmare side effect of the oil industry , becoming the most profitable companies in human history through burning their filthy oil in our thin atmosphere and developing and encouraging the use of oil based plastics which so obviously were bound to wreck our rivers and oceans.
Posted by: Richard Carter | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 06:50 PM
For those who want to do their bit towards reducing the amount of plastic waste, they can send stretchy plastic wrap such as that which covers magazines for recycling by sending it to
PolyPrint Mailing Films Ltd
Unit 21A Mackintosh Road
Rackheath Estate
Rackheath
Norwich NR13 6LJ
Posted by: Sharon Garforth | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 07:12 PM
Actually it's quite handy that it's all gathering down there.An ideal opportunity to collect it all up and recycle!
Posted by: joss malone | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 07:43 PM
Is there a way to recycle household plastics? We collect everything but we have nothing to do with it! If people have no idea what to do with the plastic they have collected then there is a problem. Why should we feel guilty about not recycling our plastics if government and industries are not prepared to make a real difference to improve the enviroment?
Posted by: Paul Dale | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 08:02 PM
It was once claimed by a plastic food wrap company that they had produced enough plastic wrap to cover the entire world. That might be a more preferred method of killing ourselves than the piecemeal approach that we have done by killing off individual biospheres. You know, modern life is not that great.
Posted by: John | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 08:22 PM
The worlds rubbish dump
The Technology existsto treat it on site, companies think about working together, and those in charge talk about saveing the Planet, but the expence(in money)and the unwilling for working bigger(not just bigger thinking)mean that this mess will stay a mess instead of becomeing power heat and energy that would last for a 100 years or more! so so sad for the human race!!!!!!
Posted by: Mark | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 09:00 PM
I'm very concerned in general by rubbish and our "throw away" society. If we use these products, manufacturers will still make them. Supermarkets banning plastic bags would be one easy step. Manufacturers reducing packaging would be another. We do not need these products we just use them because they are available and convenient. I think manufacturers need to take more responsibility for recycling and reconditioning their products. Plus recycling symbols need to be clearer and products need to be labelled with details of how they can be recycled. However, I do feel that we all need to take responsibility for what we are doing to this planet and all put a little more thought into what we really need and what we just think we need because it makes our lives more convenient. I am certainly very worried about the world my children will grow up in.
Posted by: Debbie Williams | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 09:07 PM
looks like time is ripe to (re)read J.G. Ballard's Sci-Fi novel "The Drought"
Posted by: Michel DELARCHE | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 09:16 PM
Why haven't we sent any trash to space yet?
(not that I agree with it) just wondering?
Posted by: Cathleen | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 09:25 PM
Our local council (West Berks) has just done a 20+ year deal with a contractor to collect domestic waste and recycling. This will include plastic "bottles". Big deal. Plastic waste comprises a lot more than just bottles and the company concerned make it clear on their web site that they are unable to deal with mixed plastic waste - even if it has a recycling symbol on it. So most recyclable plastic waste ends up in landfill or the sea.
Posted by: Antony Straszewski | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 09:57 PM
I agree with the last paragraph of the article, about consumption restrictions, but think too that there are issues of manufacturer regulation/ negotiation/ liability in this area. Joined-up policy in such areas must normally be the most effective and efficient.
Surely this is the sort of thing where the EU and UN have reasonable records on leading the way?
Also: if the stuff collects together, can't (and shouldn't) it somehow be collected, as a transitional (and co-operative) measure?
Posted by: ToucanT | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 10:03 PM
I am part of a campaign in a medium size town in Wiltshire to make Melksham plastic bag free. I have found talking to business independent as well as usual supermarkets that the general feeling is we all want the same result .Some want councils, governments ,businesses to be leading the way some like are self’s are leading from the bottom up linking with other motivated persons and groups. We all need to be part of the answer lets do the easy thing first get rid of plastic bags. Then we need to do the next easy step packaging month on month cutting back on plastic packaging through debate, dialogue and regulation this is already happening it may be small but there is a wave of change .Next lets break it up into individual item’s example drinks i.e. what’s best aluminium, glass, plastic recycled, disposable plastic and all the issues related to this. Lets remember, the environment has a monetary value to us all. One of British rails lessons has been not having a long term goal because of politics etc. well the environment is a long term goal lets not make the same mistake with the planet.
Posted by: scott aldersley | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 10:10 PM
I think a lot of readers have realised that we 'consumers'(sic) do not want/need the outrageous quantities of plastic that businesses are thrusting onto us and our beautiful environment that is being quickly eroded. There is indeed 'no away' if we pollute our land, sea and air with vast quantities of rubbish it will kill our animals and make humans very ill; despite being kept alive by the drug companies at a cost to the NHS.
All packaging should be compostable, recycled or anaerobically digested - along with food waste to make a gas. The small amount left over should be made inert or buried.
Businesses need to have some responsibility; we must get our priorities in order. There are always alternatives - corn 'plastic' and compostable plastic is available, paper sacks and cloth bags can be used for shopping. Corn windows, waxed card and card and paper can be used in combination. Chocolate bars used to be wrapped in paper! Now every yogurt carton is plastic. Oral B used to provide a refill for it's dental floss - now it's a new plastic dispenser every time, their address is not available - the people don't have a say against business it's them versus the environment. Even Prince Charles puts a layer of plastic in his biscuits. The oil industry is making our way of living undesirable and unsustainable, although I have even met people that don't even realise plastics are made of oil. I was hoping that plastic would be too expensive to make due to increasing oil prices but have come to realise that we the consumer will pay the increased price of the packaging even if it's worth more than the goods. Well done Mr Moore for getting out of the oil industry - but please don't blame consumers - businesses need to be forced to cut the plastic by legislation by the government - the convenience of it has long past diminished; they should ask Friends of the Earth or Greenpeace to help them with R&D so they can have responsibility for the disposal of their products from beginning to end.
Posted by: Janice Alderson | Tuesday, 05 February 2008 at 10:20 PM
Today’s feature on the Pacific soup filled me with anger, fear, guilt and frustration. Like all of us, I am a passive aggressor, not ever mindful of my lifetime’s consumption and complicity in this wanton disrespect and destruction of our fabulous home.
I live by the sea, where many keen volunteers fight the plastic tide through regular beach cleaning. This is obviously the tip of an iceberg, about which there is nothing you or I or Christopher Robin can do to retrieve our contribution. Who can deal with such enormous quantities of plastic at sea? A nobler purpose perhaps, for whalers, trawlers, oil tankers and naval vessels in a concerted international salvage effort funded by a tax on all plastic goods and a substantial contribution from the oils and plastics industrial giants. But were it harvested, where would it go? And how could we all manage to break the plastic chains and prevent it recurring?
I recommend www.storyofstuff.com for guilty consumer enlightenment.
Posted by: Jenny Hyde | Wednesday, 06 February 2008 at 12:31 AM
Nobody seems to notice the obvious. If an organism lives, it generates waste. There is no getting around it.
The problem is the sheer number of the organism called human beings. In 1948 the global population stood at 2.4 billion. In sixty years it has nearly trebled 6.5 billion. The checks and balances that limits and maintains a species' numbers at a certain optimum level has broken down. Nature's balance is now gone awry.
Blame man's vanity. The Scientist's myopic preoccupation with all things human will ultimately destroy us.
It is in the nature of things to change. A vast majority of humans have to die for the this planet to regain its pristine state. It has already began, I think.
A well deserved fate!
Posted by: Prem Das | Wednesday, 06 February 2008 at 01:17 AM
Of course we need to phase out the use of ALL plastic as a material immediately. We need to redesign any product that is made from plastic, to conform to the 'cradle to cradle' design concept - so everything we manufacture is in a closed loop system. As developed by McDonough & Braungart. Its all about rethinking product design and starting a clean up operation. The alternative materials will be equally acceptable and functional compared to what we have now, actually superior. For example, HEMP plastics are a viable, totally ecological alternative. The solution must be safely biodegradable. A clean-up operation of this plastic ocean must start - I know its only moving it from sea to landfill, but then we are entering an era when we must begin to phase harmful materials out anyway, and it must be more harmful to remain in the ocean ?
Posted by: Sarah Egholm | Wednesday, 06 February 2008 at 03:20 PM
Che depressione,
che schifo,
e.noi saremmo il genere, intelliggente ?.
Chi controlla ?,
chi sanziona ?,
chi sono gli armatori, che girano con le navi da quelle parti ?.
Le aziende elettriche o di riciclaggio,
cosa aspettano a recuperare e trasformare in energia e indumenti, tutto quel materiale ?
....esterefatto.............
Posted by: GIOVANNI | Wednesday, 06 February 2008 at 06:11 PM
How did 4/5 of this plastic come from land and only 1/5 from boats. I thought waste was either buried or burned.
Is there a legal framework to help prevent the discarding of hazardous waste at sea?
These waste soups could be trawled,and people who run boats should be reminded of the responsibilities they have towards the oceans and the life therein.
Posted by: colin davies | Wednesday, 06 February 2008 at 07:20 PM
We need to cut back on our use of plastics. There was a time not too long ago that we didn't rely on plastic. There is an excellent article from Paul Goettlich called Alternatives to Plastic here:
http://www.mindfully.org/Plastic/Alternatives/Alternatives-
Plastic-Goettlich3aug05.htm
Also here in Canada a lot of the grocery stores sell reuseable bags and some are even made from recycled plastic! I personally only buy beverages that are in glass or aluminum containers. Every little bit helps and we all have a part in it :)
Posted by: Nora Berg | Wednesday, 06 February 2008 at 11:05 PM
I am an ecologist that works for a professional consultancy in the UK in which capacity I undertake work in freshwater environments such as streams and river corridors. Plastics and other materials such as rubber have been around for many decades, only in relatively recent times have they been produced to biodegrade. The treatment & disposal of this material has been mostly without consideration of the impact to the environment - nearly every field & garden in the UK will contain a certain amount of plastic - it is cheap to produce & can be used in many ways. From the many surveys of rivers I have undertaken (especially in urban areas) there is a large amount of disposed plastic (old and new)to find its way into the marine environment, especially as a result of more extreme and widespread flood events and erosion. Like any other object a piece of plastic is subject to physical forces within the environment it occurs in so in marine environments will reduce in size over time as it is pulverised by mechanical action of waves, other solid particles in suspension and rocks in coastal areas. Plastic particles exist that are now down to 10 microns in size - almost at the atomic scale - small enough that the plastic may become unstable and its molecules combine with other free molecules to form new compounds. Virtually every marine organism from whales to krill is or now has the potential to contain these minute particles with as yet unknown affects on the food chain. I understand that there is some research is ongoing on this issue based in the UK and other countries. Ban plastics? I think it a bit late in the day - we will have to watch what unfolds from our past foolhardiness.
Posted by: Jim | Thursday, 07 February 2008 at 03:01 AM