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Monday, 10 March 2008

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Neil McGowan

What a wasted opportunity. A newly-instituted Iron Cross could have been presented by Germany to ALL those fighting in Iraq. No more suitable decoration could be imagined.

Tshwane

"Given the legacy of Hitler and the Second World War,”

...no point in being PC and taboo about it - one of the legacies of the British Empire was its inspiration to Hitler. Talking of the pre-Hitler German empire, Iron Crosses, and concentration camps and genocidal legacies...wonder how many, Jewish, Christian and kaffir German colonial stormtroopers were awarded Iron Crosses for just 'doing their jobs’ in Namibia?


"reclaim it, rather that give the Nazis credit for something that was not theirs in the first place?"

Yeah but neither were concentration camps nor the imperial name Windhoek. Anyway the Independent wouldn't dream of attempting to spin the same Eurocentric argument on behalf of the (pre-civil war) Rwandan flag with the letter R.


"the medal is too burdened by the past to be reintroduced"

Maybe the German genocidaires should of never abandoned their metal trinkets in the first place – South African and Rhodesian apartheid paraphernalia/memorabilia is rife in the white commonwealth, no questions asked.


The German genocidaires are definitely not burdened about it’s genocidal past against Namibians so why Jews. The Blairofascist Independent should be awarded an honorary Iron Cross for services to Eurocentric spin on the legacy of the Iron Cross.

Europe Adieu.

Chris

The Iron Cross was first awaded in 1813 during the Napolionic wars, a special iron cross was also issues to Russians who served with the Prussians in the same era. So it's getting on for 2 centuries of existance, why not reclaim it for what it is an award for bravery.

The last iron crosses issued were in 1957 to enable veterans of WW2 to wear them without the offensive swastika. It was recognised as an item of value to those that won the award and the sacrifices they had made.

Bring it back, it is not a symbol of hate.

Tshwane

"it's getting on for 2 centuries of existance, why not reclaim it for what it is an award for bravery."

Run me through how the German genocide against Namibian civilians constitutes bravery?

richard zatyko

hi, i would keep the iron cross,so stick that in your pipe and smoke it if you don't what i say,you can find faults about any country in this world -real and not real-u'all have a nice day.

Setting the facts straight

Just to set the facts straight..... Concentration cames were a British invention. First created and used by the British during the South African Boer war.

Should not the bravest of the brave be singled out by an award centuries old?

The iron cross invented by Schinkell had nothing to do with Hitler. A similar analogy would be iraq donnoning the same flag colors of imperial germany, the black white and red. Will the jews of the world stop reminding the generation of germans who know nothing of the holocaust and allow them to decorqate the soldiers whom, I might add are also fighting for their freedom over in the middle east. the iron cross eist Deutschland, Deutschland eist the Eisern Kreuse.

Victor

This is like saying that the American flag is "akin" to endorsing slavery, because slavery was legal in the U.S. for the first 70 or so years of its existence. The Iron Cross is part of German History, and Third Reich period crosses were modified, just as WWI period crosses were modified--and many Jews served the German state through the military in WWI and were awarded the Iron Cross. This kind of knee-jerk reaction only propagates ignorance, just like the child who thinks that things disappear when his or her eyes are closed.

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