This morning's attack on the BBC by the Tory MP Daniel Kawczynski was quite bizarre. His allegation is that the BBC is responsible for attacks on Poles living in the UK, because in covering immigration, for purposes of political correctness, they have focused on "white Christian" immigrants rather than blacks or Asians. "Nine out of ten immigrants to our country are not Poles," he told John Humphrys. "They are not Eastern Europeans, they are from the Indian sub-continent, Africa and the West Indies."
The first question that leaps to mind is where does Mr Kawczynski get his figures? According to the most authoritative source, The Office of National Statistics, the greatest number of immigrants into the UK in the years in 2005 and 2006 was Britons returning after having previously emigrated. The second largest group was the Poles. Arrivals from India came third. Poles made up 124,000 out of 591,000 people who arrived in the UK to stay for a year or more, which - by my maths - is 21 per cent of the total. If Mr Kawczynski had said "eight out of ten immigrants are not Poles," he would have been close to the truth, but the rest of his sentence would still have exaggerated the level of immigration from the other regions he listed. But perhaps he is one of those people who think that official statistics are all lies.
Secondly, there is his implication that the way the BBC's coverage of Polish immigration is hostile to them, leaving them open to attack. My random search of the BBC website immediately brought up this item, warning of the problems the British economy would face if the Poles were to leave. If the BBC is guilty of anything, it is of trying to entice Polish workers to stay here.
Oddest of all is what Mr Kawczynski seemed to imply by his comments. He was saying that the BBC was concentrating on Polish immigrants, thereby provoking violence against Poles, when what they should be doing is drawing attention to immigration from India, Pakistan, Africa and the Carribbean, thereby directing violence at...
Surely that is not what he meant. Is it?

Well... yes but, you know, he is a Tory so he is not going to attack the Sun, Daily Mail, Times or Telegraph whose pandering to fears about eastern-Europe immigration has been far more obvious than the BBC's.
Taking an ethical stance only take you that far...
Posted by: Arnaud | Wednesday, 04 June 2008 at 11:23 AM
Mr Kawczynski's views do not reflect the views of the Federation of Poles in Great Britain, which is the official voice of the Polish community in this country.
Wiktor Moszczynski
Federation of Poles in Great Britain
Posted by: Wiktor Moszczynski | Wednesday, 04 June 2008 at 01:01 PM
Everyone forgets the reason Britain immediately removed working restrictions on the 2004 EU entry countries, whilst Germany, Austria, Italy and France didn't, was to cheapen labour...the Bank of England governor has even bragged about "how it has kept interest rates low..by keep wages depressed" Basically its the usual english war on the poor.. The ever-anglophillic Sarkozy wants Poles in France as soon as possible to break the unions. Another point is the widespread hatred in Poland itself of the few remaining poor Com-bloc workers; Vietnamese, Central Asians...Bulgarian gypsies..
Posted by: reeza | Wednesday, 04 June 2008 at 02:22 PM
I AM NOT RECIST COMMENT GIVEN TO THE PUBLIC BECAUSE THE PEOPLE LIVING HERE MOST OFF THEM EMMEGRETED FROM AROUND THE WORLD, BUT ONE COMMONE THING IS THAT THEY GET LOVER WAGES THAN OTHER PEOPLE.IN THIS COUNTY WE NEED PEOPLE WHO WORK HARD AND GIVE BACK TO COMMUITY.WE DON'T NEED TO COMMENT ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE.MOST IMMIGRETED PEOPLE WORK HARD IN THIS COUNTRY.
Posted by: SHIRISH PATEL | Wednesday, 04 June 2008 at 02:48 PM
who alegedly went to war for the Poles in 1939 only to promptly after the war ended sell them out (amongst others) Le Grand Brits Bah Humbug!
Posted by: J S Sierzant | Wednesday, 04 June 2008 at 03:27 PM
Most of the (especially) carribean migration occured in the 1950s/60s so i want to know where this MP got his figures from? most carribeans now migrate to the US/Canada, in fact demographically the carribean population is in decline and will decline further. this mp is talking rubbish
Posted by: funkg | Wednesday, 04 June 2008 at 03:52 PM
The BBC IS run by a 'liberal' elite - even CABAL - that is obsessed with promoting multi-culturalism - some believe on government in order to make people accepot mass immigration. This guy is not alone in stating what many people see as a fact.
So there is an endless diet of positive stories about ethnic minorities and a paucity of negative stories (for example, all the stuff about partition and how the families of immigrants to britain suffered whilst forgetting that their family members were also the perpetrators of violence and rape and murder). There are huge problems in black and asian communities such as child abuse and violance - most gun/knife crime is actually in ethnnic communities but you'd never know it from BBC and media coverage.
But as the man says, it's so easy to slag off white immigrants - in a way that media and the BBC would never do about people with pigment in their skins. We must 'celebrate' them, no matter what, and never ever criticise anything about any black or asian person.
Let's look at this in a clinical unemotional way yes?Analyse the media output. Why does every single programme maker now have to fill in details about how many ethnic minorities are working on any programme? Why are ethnic-themed programmes more likely to be commissioned by media managers? Why does radio 4 sound like it's run by the Muslim council? These are important issues - though anyone who dares to challenge the PC mafia who run the BBC will be called racist for telling the truth.
I admire this guy for raising this issue. The BBC needs to realise that WE pay for it and are sick of its ethnic obsessions and slagging off of british culture and the ignoring a a vast swathe of british population and its views. I wonder what their head of diversity (on £85K a year) would say...
Having said all that there are far too many immigrants of all types - and there is no net benefit for ordinary peopel who really really suffer because of this irresponsible policy, for example unable to buy a flat because they;re so expensive due to overcrwoding with incomers in the UK. Have some empathy for native people! We were NEVER asked whether we wanted millions of incomers. How would you feel if millions of immigrants came to your country and negatively affected your life?
Posted by: Mikmak | Wednesday, 04 June 2008 at 03:54 PM
Wiktor Moszczynski is absolutely right: for the most part British immigration policy has been designed to ensure that workers' wages are kept as low as possible ("wage inflation" is how the Bank of England and other institutions characterise a situation in which the standard of living increases for those at the bottom of England's social pyramid). For the last 50 years the public discourse in England has been dominated by those who benefit from mass immigration (shareholders, and others with an interest in lowering wages) deriding those who don't - and object to having their material living conditions consistently undermined - as "racist".
Posted by: Paul | Wednesday, 04 June 2008 at 05:43 PM
So amidst his self-pitying whinge, did Mr Kawczynski actually prove that there was any BBC bigotry shown towards Poles? He just seemed to bluster and pontificate without citing any incidents.
Of course given how 'liberal' the BBC 'Liberal Elite' (Melanie Phillips, Simon Heffer, Andrew Neill) are, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a degree of anti-immigrant sentiment there.
Posted by: Gregor | Wednesday, 04 June 2008 at 08:43 PM
I work with the migrants from Eastern Europe for the last 3 years. Every single day I can hear the stories about discrimination, second class citizenship, exploitation, obstacles to get trough the system to become the respected member of this society...I will not give the examples here becouse I do not think you can beleive that this is happening here in London, in UK, anyway.There is so much hatred and injustice towards the migrants from Eatern Europe that I can't sleep peacfully either. I assure that there are different attitudes if it comes to tackle the problem with Eastern Earopean to the person who is not white. Migrants appreciate opened market, the opportunities and chances this country offers. I have got an impression that they need to wait longer for the respect and the same approach as to the other nations around.
Posted by: Anna | Wednesday, 04 June 2008 at 09:39 PM
It's plainly drivel. He just wants his 15 mins of fame.
Posted by: Hugh Wain | Wednesday, 04 June 2008 at 10:17 PM
WELCOME to all the GREAT POLES - intelligent hard workers with a good sense of humour & pretty, smiling ladies, who do the crap jobs our “native” Brits don’t want to touch at £5 or £6 an hour. Yeah, I know - raise the minimum wage to £10 per hour and “our native lot” will then get off their “obese backsides”, come off benefits and get up at 5.30 am to catch a bus to get to work for 7.30am, (just like my Czech friend does every day - for £5.05ph and he has to pay £6 a day in bus fares.) At the very least, the Polish (and Czech) immigration re-adjusts, however minutely, the inexorable flow to these islands and to Europe as a whole, of TENS of MILLIONS of Asians, Africans, Caribbeans and Latin Americans since 1945. The Poles are white, Christian (no apologies for using that virtually taboo word) and come from the HEART of EUROPE, just like OUR Anglo-Saxon ancestors did 1500 years ago! (My apologies for proudly admitting that I am white & Christian by birth, though absolutely non-religious, and wanting to welcome more whites and Christians to this country), and of course, PC prevents ordinary white people from mentioning that fact but I’ll bet my bottom dollar, that had there been a referendum in 1945 to see if the then ethnic British population preferred white European or “coloured” (as it was then known) immigration in 1945, the answer would have been emphatically white & EUROPEAN! I still remember the race riots of the 50s and 60s , the accommodation adverts for “non-coloureds only”, the “N” words in common usage in schools and workplaces, the use of “coon” on prime-time TV on the BBC and ITV etc etc and some of you will remember the race riots of 70s and Toxteth, Broadwater etc etc .
The Poles want to work hard, have no history EVER of terrorism, were en-masse on our side in World War 2 and WW1, but whatever has Algeria, Afghanistan, Iran, Kurdistan, Colombia, Somalia, Vietnam, Brazil, Turkey etc etc etc and the likes to do with the history or security of this country, ever? The unique Polish contribution to the allied WW2 effort was giving us the exact blueprints and breaking the codes of the “unbreakable” German Enigma machine, (it wasn’t the great Alan Turing who first broke the codes-check it out!) Also the most successful Battle of Britain squadrons, victory at Monte Cassino, Tobruk, El Alamein, Arnhem etc etc- where they saved our trapped Paras from total annihilation by the SS, liberation with the Allies of Italy, France, Belgium and Holland, etc etc. and of course, the bringing down of communism and the Soviet Russian Empire and the Czech contribution –Battle of Britain aces and Heydrich assassination, Prague Spring etc. Our strategic defence spending is much lower since the fall of communism and would have been negligible had it not been for the crazy Iraq war- into which the subservient-to-NATO Polish government were coerced by the USA with a promise of NATO membership & defence materiel.
Of course, to pretend that all is PERFECT with uncontrolled immigration is just as crass as to preach the opposite. After Bulgaria and Romania joined, other EU countries, France in particular, should have been persuaded- or even obliged - to take their “first waves” of Eastern migrants and THEY now would have the problem of the Gypsies from Romania.
And incidentally, whenever I travel abroad, I get tired of the million Brits in Spain, many behaving appallingly-you can’t see a native Spaniard in most of the bars and to practice your Spanish is difficult- with a similar sort of Brit invasion in Southern France where they are pushing property prices up to ridiculous levels, preventing the local population from buying, owning and operating farms and small businesses as we Brits buy them up as holiday or retirement homes. It’s only inside the crap and crass pages of Der Daily Maelstrom- which is xenophobic and racist- but because it is afraid of saying anything against the non-white masses for fear of being officially labelled as racist and prosecuted, does that by venting it’s rabidly racist spleen on the Poles in particular, who being white and from the hated EU (by the DM and most of its readers), are an easy target for them. The Poles and Czechs can’t talk back-they are too busy working honestly for a living stocking our Tesco shelves, serving our burgers and unblocking our loos! There are more Brits in Spain- a very much smaller country in population than the UK and very arid, than there are Poles, Czechs, and other central Europeans in the UK-which is 50 percent more populous and richer than Spain!
It will truly be a great day for this country when the Poles and Czechs become the BIGGEST ethnic minority in this country-but somehow sadly I can’t see another 6 million of them coming here! Leicester will never be 50 percent Polish!
The same sort of xenophobic clap-trap was peddled about the Jewish influx from Eastern Europe at the end of the 19th century- at least 40 years before the Nazis came to power.
I would bet everything I own on the fact that a million times more people would know who won the last crass Big Brother than who cracked the “unbreakable” Enigma codes!
But that’s our education system for you…and that’s another story!
So, you ignorant racists- read this and learn something and do some intelligent research before you post your uninformed, bigoted regurgitated Der Daily Maelstrom prejudicial crap on the websites!
Posted by: BaahBaah | Thursday, 05 June 2008 at 08:44 AM
Anna - you are clearly east/central european yourself.Need to practise those articles eh...
How would you feel Anna if millions of immigrants arrived in your country, putting huge pressure on resources (flats, benefits, schools, trains, hospitals), lowering wages for native british people (they do) - it's all very well for a pole or a czech to earn £5 and hour - in eastern europe you earn £1 an hour! So for them it's great, just a big adventure - they've got no kids, no responsibilities, are not suffering due to house price madness etc.
And, in addition to all that, we now have to look after and pay for all the gypsies that the east/central europeans through their massively racist policies have, in effect, forced out of their country, so now we have gypsies claiming for their hoardes of kids in the UK. Madness.
Show some empathy for the british eh? We are far more tolerant here than in any other country I know. By the way, I used to live in eastern europe - but I did a job a local couldn't do and so put no negative pressure at all on that country. And I earned rubbish, but lived there for the experience. And I can even speak and understand some of the slavic languages.
And I shall not be lectured by foreigners about my attitudes to immigration and race - because I KNOW how racist most immigrants are themselves (all colours).
In the UK we are not intolerant enough perhaps, so everyone wants to come here because they know we spend billions on them and make them feel right at home (must be at least 20% of our taxes on this funding). And the ordinary british man suffers. And the BBC calls him racist because it's practically run by muslims and PC fascists these days. And people are surprised that people are bitter and angry and resady to explode!!!! Now that's what I call thick.
All very well to be in favour of immigration when you benefit! But if you don't benefit, then come back to me and say how wonderful immigration is. Show some empathy for those who are suffering.
Posted by: comeboo | Thursday, 05 June 2008 at 09:03 AM
Well done Mr. Kawczynski! It’s about time somebody spoke up for the Poles. Sir Digby Jones was the last man I heard “singing their praises” although Sir Alan Sugar also praised the Polish & eastern European work ethic.
Andy McSmith’s penultimate paragraph is disturbing and wholly unworthy of a journalist from such a respected paper. He obviously tried to be tongue-in-cheek clever or provocative? He succeeded in being hurtful to people like myself who abhor all violence against ANY people -immigrant or indigenous. Mr. K should demand a full written apology & retraction from Mr. McSmith. If Mr. K had been black or Asian, the police would have no doubt visited McSmith to ask whether he had scandalously & libellously insinuated that Mr.K was pro-violence toward other immigrants! You can imagine the rest….Let’s at the very least be completely honest here. The vast majority of all UK journalists are actually SCARED to criticise non-white immigrants and the Asians in particular, and also the market for the BBC’s products is vast in Asia and Africa as compared with eastern Europe- by a factor of 100 at least!
Mr. K was basically saying “don’t just single out the Poles but put their immigration in the context of the 6 million mainly Asian and Afro-Caribbean immigrants & their descendants already here.” If immigration causes problems, then it is ALL immigration -including the millions of extended family members of other immigrants many of whom haven’t integrated & don’t speak a word of English. And what about the immigration of over a million Brits into Spain including several members of my family? Good or bad?
Give European immigrants some credit here! The “old” Poles are a well-educated, successful, law-abiding and industrious community in the UK. I have in the past heard in TV documentaries that they are the best educated & most successful minority group after the Jews. Most are wholly integrated and many have intermarried. And how many Brit-Poles guest on the BBC’s Question Time? Has there ever been even one?
The new Polish immigrants are mostly young, healthy and haven’t brought their extended families here. Most plan to return home after a few years. They are essentially “guest workers” helping out with the labour shortages in certain “unpopular”, low paid industries all over Europe. Some will stay but unfortunately over half won’t.
Since WW2, Poles have also made an important contribution to higher education in this country particularly in medicine, dentistry, science and engineering. Many teachers and university lecturers & some professors after the war were Polish and at university in the 1960s, I met quite a few, mainly teaching in the engineering departments. One famous man who comes to mind was an author and professor of Structural Engineering named Makowski. Indeed, they even had their own Polish University College in London during WW2, whose Department of Engineering then merged with Battersea Polytechnic I believe, and which became and is now the University of Surrey! Auntie Beeb- please invite some of them to appear on QT.
Posted by: KKKK | Thursday, 05 June 2008 at 12:14 PM
comeboo -i almost entirly agree with you. I think the million + british imigrants should get oyut of Spain. They push up property prices and buy up busineses at inflated prices forcing the poor avrage spaniard out of buisness.And they dont even try to speek Spanish or catalan.Some spanish schools have 30 percent british children putting steress on teachers in that realtivly poor country.
And while we are at it, i think all the Brits - over half million of them-sjhould get out France,-they say they hate the french & cant speak the lingo and also get out of florida-it is crwling with them there. And they are buying up properties in South africa, australia, thailand etc etc. In france, the brits get better free medical treatment than they ever got in Uk putting stress on the french hosptals, social services etc. and dole money is much higher in france than Uk. I have personally witnessed brit builders in Fr undercut french crsftsmen!
Best if all immigrants went to their own contries then 20 million brits woud return to Uk and all will be well with the world again. But please do it SOON before you use up all our resorces. And keep your binge culture drinking to yourselves!best wishes.
Posted by: Martin | Thursday, 05 June 2008 at 12:46 PM
Martin - tired, pointless, trite argument mate. You sound like a muslim nutter slagging off the british (coz we're all binge-drinking slags and utterly useless of course - have you seen the polish drink!). Seems to me that The brits abroad are there to get away from our wonderful multicultural mess of a country - I know many who have joined the 'white flight'. I would, however, love to see lower class, uneducated brits going to other countries and claiming housing benefit etc (this is not available in other countries like spain...) and causing problems - the brits take money and expertise wherever they go (they face a closed shop when there's even the danger of undercutting locals): so let's send all our lowlife to africa, asia and europe - THEN the white escapees may return to their homeland eh?
Posted by: Comeboo | Thursday, 05 June 2008 at 02:38 PM
Comeboo,
Yes, I am clearly Eastern European by myself and I don't question British tolerance. What's more, I really appreciate I coud have come here, studied, had 3 jobs at the same time to support myself and pay for university. I think this country has got so much to offer and to be achieved. I admire your nation if it comes to the attitude to foreigners, but I still know what second class citizenship means.I notice that the ploitical correctness is not there for Eastern Europeans yet. And the last thing, I am aware
there are more migrants coming to Poland nowadys, and you know what, that's great becouse Poles will be learning and they will become more opened-minded and tolerant.
Posted by: Anna | Thursday, 05 June 2008 at 08:10 PM