Have Your Say: Britain declares war on food waste
Today The Independent reports on the Government's plans to launch a campaign to stamp out Britain's waste food mountains as part of a global effort to curb spiralling food prices. But can the G8 Summit really achieve lasting changes? And should China and India be allowed to join?

So the people have been wasting food and can save 420 pounds a year by not throwing it away?
But the government has wasted billions upon billions of pounds - some of it in helping to create this problem.
Will they be cutting back on anything? MPs expense claims, say? Spurious 'initiatives' that cost millions and do not work?
I think not. Time to throw out the waste from the House of Commons. Gordon first.
Posted by: Jack French | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 02:47 AM
Actually, I think the PETA People have it right, so I tried to go on a Vegetarian Diet long ago - But found that it was illegal to hunt them!
I think the CHICOMS have it right - An answer for the Obese Problem so prevalent today - SOYLENT GREEN!
Posted by: Rick A Hyatt | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 03:33 AM
GREAT! Now all you multiculties can starve yourselves to abject weakness while waiting to be beheaded, just to prevent anyone having the strength to resist at the last moment. Your slow lingering suicide is disgusting.
Posted by: David Simpson | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 05:48 AM
Please tell me that the British government and people are NOT this stupid.
Posted by: Bob | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 07:10 AM
You can't be serious,Quite frankly,you guys are scaring me to death You want to tell me how much I can buy? You can't control your own lives but you want to control mine.
You talk about the famine in other parts of the world but how about all of the rotting food on docks and the food and goods meant for the starving going to the war lords and others and never getting to the people that need it. When the G8,UN and all of the other goody-goody Orgs get their acts together and can get the food to the people that need it then come talk to me,otherwise buzz off.
Posted by: Lynn Williams | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 08:52 AM
This is the same Gordon who has just recently hosted a massive City banquet to tell us to cut down
We don't have seven course meals and fine wines !
I would like to know who told Gordon about "buy one get one free" because he is so far removed from the people !
Do as I say not as I do is the Labour party Mantra
Posted by: Jeanette Eccles | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 08:52 AM
Blimey, this government is getting more Kafkaesque by the day. Has anyone seen the amount of food that gets wasted and thrown away in westminster. It's probably more than enough to feed everyone living rough on the streets of London.
These people are no longer on the same planet as the rest of us.
Posted by: flipped | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 09:13 AM
Stop blaming government, stop blaming everyone else, make it a personal choice not to waste food in our profligate society.
It helps if you go veggie because of all that wheat needed to feed cattle and pigs and chickens who are treated awful anyway.
And to show you are a free man and rebel and won't be told what to do by anyone, every blue moon, have a Mars Bar, or cream cake, yum yum, while no one is looking and show who is in charge round here. :-)
Posted by: icarus | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 09:24 AM
Gordon gandstanding again. He is off to the G8 junket with an empty purse. Cannot afford any more donations to the poor countries of the world. Has to say something, but what? He could talk about the massive increase in emissions the conference will create with its security arrangements. Destroyers oatrolling the seas around Japan; warplanes constantly flying overhead; day and night army and police vehicle patrols. Then there is all the aircraft to fly the leaders and hundreds of delegates and media to and from the venue, and the sushi to feed them. Gordon and sushi? That will go in the bin.
Posted by: albert hall | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 09:45 AM
God, this is just laughable. Brown launching a "War on Food Waste"? And putting pressure on supermarkets to drop three-for-the-price-of-two deals - a move that would hit the poorest in our society the hardest? What a pitiful idiot Brown is. As prices rise and the poorest in Britain find it harder to make ends meet, our buffoon of a PM starts advocating fewer bargains ...
I hope the supermarkets tell him to shove it. The electorate most certainly will.
Posted by: M. Jamieson | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 09:56 AM
all this wasted food - has it calculated by examining the contents of 100 dustbins and extrapolating a gross figure to include fishheads,teabags, coffee grounds,potato peelings etc.ie a government figure or has it some basis, no matter how tenuous, with reality?
Posted by: davidc | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 11:23 AM
Risible! Before Brown launches off against individuals he should take a look round the back of his supermarket of a night. That's where he'll find wasted food.
Our local supermarket no longer reduces bakery prices on the sell-by day because of a customer complaint - it just throws the stuff away, sack after sack of it... while people elsewhere in the world starve. They won't even give the stuff away to staff.
So, Mr Brown, go sort out problems like that before lecturing us on wasting food.
Posted by: Dane Aubrun | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 11:27 AM
As per usual, it's the government's fault and no one elses. Jumping on the bandwagon and blaming Gordon Brown for all of the world's ills, does not solve any problems, and isn't a sufficient excuse to carry on wasting as much food as we do, or driving our 4x4's to the supermarket.
Posted by: Kenny | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 11:38 AM
Do not wast yes. But do not tell a Food Store what and how much they should sell NO. The next step will be they will TELL them what they can sell. Next it will be on YOU. What and how much you can buy and what. This is more control over people. Your cost and overseas cost will not go down. Useing Corn as part of fule has shot the cost of many things up. All Goverments know this but hype it any way. It is worse than gas but we like it and sounds good they say. Now they say you should then YOU WILL. Cut down on wast but keep Gov. control out.
USA
Posted by: Larry | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 12:13 PM
How about a soundbite from Prescott on this? That's a SOUNDbite!
Remember the exception he took to those wasted eggs, though.
Posted by: Rob dePlume | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 12:29 PM
What I want to know, is exactly who is wasting this food because it isn't pensioners, people on low wages and on benefits who can't afford to waste food, it already costs them far too much. In fact the vast majority of them don't eat properly as they're torn between paying for childrens clothes, gas/electricity, rent and rates.
Posted by: flipped | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 01:11 PM
See how much food you throw away when your total income is £135pw.Also do the governments of Europe still pay farmers to set aside land,i.e.not to grow crops on it?
Posted by: David G | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 01:40 PM
This is a little strong from a (ex) Chancellor and soon to be ex PM who wasted BILLIONS by selling the country's gold at the bottom of the market and is still wasting many millions buying votes ( allegedly) in Northern Ireland in order to push through his ill conceived ideas. Whilst writing this our great Scottish leader is tucking in at a dinner in Tokyo . I trust he finishes what is on his plate or take the leftovers in a doggy bag back to his hotel.
Posted by: Paul | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 01:49 PM
The POOR in this country ,who are now poorer than they were 11 years ago do not have any money to waste. Could we have comments please on food wastage from any caterers that cater at functions at no's 10 and 11 Downing Street?
Posted by: Martin | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 01:53 PM
And the new caring compassionate Conservative line on this would be?
Eat or be ETON.
Posted by: trevo | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 02:07 PM
@ trevo - "And the new caring compassionate Conservative line on this would be?"
Hopefully not to penalise the poor in Britain by telling supermarkets not to offer three-for-two bargains.
Typical Brown - it's always the poorest who pay for his stupid ideas.
Posted by: M. Jamieson | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 02:29 PM
So licking our plate clean is to be -The New Labour Policy, is it? How much better if the G8 delegates discussed the real world problem of vast overpopulation and growing at one and a half million every WEEK! Faster than the growth in world food supplies.
Posted by: David Vinter | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 02:40 PM
At least they extended drinking hours so the "needy" amongst us could binge away their disposable incomes; not to mention all those "recycled" kebabs you see in the gutters.
I'm guessing Mr Brown the Beadle skipped that page of Oliver Twist?
Posted by: Rob dePlume | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 03:01 PM
I agree with Dane Aubrun (above) most supermarkets seem to chuck skiploads of food away. They should follow the example of my local ASDA store, they reduce stuff drastically enough to get rid of it, occasionally they even give it away.
I also agree with flipped (also above) Its not poor people who waste food, we simply can't afford to. Frankly, the idea of receiving lectures on food waste from the banqueting classes is surreal, these parasites obviously have no sense of self awareness.
Posted by: Mark Underwood | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 03:46 PM
Once again in total agreement with Flipped and Mark Underwood, yet another jibe aimed at the poorest, who are forever being made to feel like scapegoats for all the ills of society.
If you want to stop waste, then try imposing fines on the supermarkets for the amount of rotting food thrown away, restaurants who offer "eat as much as you can" deals, thus encouraging gluttony and waste. What about all of the 2 for 1 deals that encourage waste? TV celebrity cooking shows, they certainly have no qualms about wasting food.
So Gordon Brown, take this bit of advice, and shove it where the sun doesn't shine!
Put your own house in order, such as the £23000 a year MPs allowance for food and expenses, over and above their salary. Me and my missus spend less than £5000 a year, and that includes wine and beer!
Posted by: AndyUK | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 03:58 PM
Even by Gordon Brown's standards, asking British voters to eat less whilst he's troughing five course lunches and ten course dinners at the G8 conference in Japan is priceless. He sounds more like a Spitting Image caricature of himself with every passing day. Does the man not realise that he has absolutely no credibilty left outside of his circle of equally detached 'world leader' mates and his own collection of sychophants?
Posted by: Tony Ford | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 06:02 PM
Kenny wrote;
"As per usual, it's the government's fault and no one elses. Jumping on the bandwagon and blaming Gordon Brown for all of the world's ills, does not solve any problems, and isn't a sufficient excuse to carry on wasting as much food as we do, or driving our 4x4's to the supermarket."
Why the reference to 4x4's? Are we back on the saving the planet thing? As well as troughing on his banquets whilst telling the rest of us to cut back, has anyone questioned how much of the dreaded Co2 Gordon's little junket produced? Not very 'enviromentally friendly' jetting off to Japan, is it?
Posted by: Tony Ford | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 06:13 PM
There are several initiatives already running to deal with this issue - we've been using www.shoppingplanner.co.uk for over two years - once again Mr Brown is scrabbling to catch up rather than providing a lead.
Posted by: Paul Driscoll | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 06:32 PM
Supermarkets do throw a lot of food away. They would be advised to consider doing something useful with it, donating some to local old peoples homes or homeless for example.
As for our wonderful leaders they should set an example and stop stuffing themselves. Perhaps this is why they are so full if S****.
Posted by: scousekraut | Monday, 07 July 2008 at 07:08 PM
I agree with Brown. Now is the time for decisive action by government. Might I suggest that they start by bringing back John Prescott as Minister for Leftovers....
Posted by: Scot Richards | Tuesday, 08 July 2008 at 01:58 AM
Ten ways to stop Britain wasting food!
1. Having pets wastes food. Pets produce nothing, they only consume. Eat your cat today and help to end world poverty! Keep a small mouse as a pet instead.
2. We should shoot all the squirrels in parks and only let goats graze in the trees.
3. Women should set an example by only dating short men. Anyone over six foot two should be prohibited from placing a personal ad with a dating agency. The Pirelli calendar should only feature size zero models.
4. Every attic in the country should be converted into a greenhouse to grow tomatoes and every basement and bath into a fish farm.
5. All school playing fields should be converted into farms and schoolchildren taught how to farm.
6. Detergent powder makes an excellent alternative to rice, for throwing confetti and keeps streets and churches nice and clean! In addition, as an added bonus, the cheaper brands have a sterilising effect.
7. Potatoes use less water and land per kilogram yield than any other crop grown in Britain. We should all eat chips everyday and encourage our children too!
8. Just one Robbie Coltrane could feed an entire village in sub-Sahara Africa for a whole year!
9. Cotton is a crop grown on land that could be used to grow food. Cotton uses much water that could be used to irrigate land to grow more food. People who don’t wear protective patches on their elbows, knees and shoulders and don't habitually carry shotguns should be shunned because they are wasting cotton, needlessly!
10. We should all drink real ale. Alcoholic beverages, except real ale, are very inefficient uses of precious foodstuffs!
Posted by: Sensible Chap | Tuesday, 08 July 2008 at 03:19 AM
Eminently Sensible!
Perhaps Swift's "Modest Proposal" could be made required cabinet reading.
Posted by: Rob dePlume | Tuesday, 08 July 2008 at 08:26 AM
OK we should waste less but which government supports the EU fishing policy which dictates if stupid undersized fish have the temerityto be caught, then they have to be thrown back into the sea, dead, for the gulls to eat? Nu Labour utterances just get worse.
Posted by: Richard | Tuesday, 08 July 2008 at 08:59 AM
Tony wrote: “Why the reference to 4x4's? Are we back on the saving the planet thing? As well as troughing on his banquets whilst telling the rest of us to cut back, has anyone questioned how much of the dreaded Co2 Gordon's little junket produced? Not very 'enviromentally friendly' jetting off to Japan, is it?”
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Surely World leaders’ meeting to discuss such problems is more necessary than any of us owning 4x4's for jaunts to the supermarket or to do the school run.
The world needs to kick its addiction to oil before war becomes in the Orwellian sense, something we will just have to get used to.
Need I point out that oil is used: in fertilisers, to harvest crops, to transport them to market and in much of the packaging. The more we needlessly consume, the less affordable it will become for producers - hence the food shortages.
Posted by: Kenny | Tuesday, 08 July 2008 at 09:52 AM
One of the biggest reasons we now have rocketing food prices and some shortages Kenny, is that our myopic government amongst others are pursuing a ludicrous policy of producing bio-fuels in order to save a planet that is doing very nicely anyway.
I don't believe a single word uttered by the global warming fanatics. What I do believe is that world leaders are pursuing policies in a vain attempt to overcome the power of the planet that will result in poverty and starvation for millions. It isn't global warming that will cause this, it's vanity politics, and in the case of Gormless Gordon, an insatiable desire to relieve the UK population of as much money as possible through 'green' taxation to plug his 7.5bn black hole.
Posted by: Tony Ford | Tuesday, 08 July 2008 at 12:34 PM
Tony: a non sequitur argument if ever there was one. Can't remember mentioning 'global warming'.
Oil as I'm sure you are aware, is a finite resource and the UK, along with most of Europe, the US, and emerging superpowers such as China and India, have energy policies that are increasingly dependent on its supply.
I can’t help but think that it is here (and the fact that world population is growing by 75 million every year) where the most notable and unequivocal ‘short-sightedness’ lies.
Posted by: Kenny | Tuesday, 08 July 2008 at 01:53 PM
I remember just after the war (WWII that is) when we recycled food before anyone knew what recycling was. Every house had what was called a "pigs bin". It was filled with food left overs and collected one a week where it went to the local farmers who fed their pigs on it after it had been boiled up. Now we can't do that because of some health & Safety Czar ruling that it unhygienic. Also, shops and restaurants have been stopped giving their surplus away to the homeless and needy by the same PC group for the same reasons. When is common sense going to make a comeback in the UK?
Posted by: Tomas | Tuesday, 08 July 2008 at 05:22 PM
Brown criticizes the U.K. public for wasting food. And then at the G8 summit they have an 18-course meal? I lived in Japan and appreciate good there like everybody else. But maybe the PM needs a new pr firm?
Posted by: Tom | Friday, 11 July 2008 at 05:00 AM
Someone I know works for a well known supermarket chain and the food he sees thrown away every day is in better condition then the food in my fridge, it has simply passed its sell by date.
The government allows the sale of tobacco which research has proved can be damaging to health, and can even cause death. I presume that health and safety dont intervene with this because of the government health warning on the packet which removes any responsibility the vendors have for the consequences of the use of this product.
If this is the case, why cant supermarket chains do something similar with produce past its sell by date.
A simple message telling consumers that once past its sell by date the product may damage health,or words to that effect, should be sufficient, and would end this obscene practice of throwing away perfectly edible and nourishing food.
Its too simple.
Posted by: jane morton | Friday, 24 October 2008 at 10:24 AM