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the orange party

There is much more to this than your analysis.
Clarke's outburst wasn't anything new. It's all about timing.
The removal of Brown would mean an election and the end of New Labour.
The strategy is to keep Brown in power but to make sure that the Blairite policies are kept at the forefront of government.
The BBC's Nick Robinson eludes to this in a clever little sketch in today's blog and I have come to a similar conclusion here:

http://theorangepartyblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/clarke-browns-downfall-blairite.html

Ed Jacobs, Labour Party member

Let’s be blunt, Charles Clarke’s latest attack on Gordon Brown is hardly surprising given that he now has a track record of such stabbing in the back. As a grassroots member of the Labour Party, I find such attacks a disgrace, and it is Charles, not Gordon who is damaging Labour.

As a party we must come to our sense. We won three elections because we changed. Gone were the days when we put ourselves first. We won because we put ourselves at the service of the British public, because their concerns were our concerns. They will never forgive us if we turn in on ourselves and forget them.

At a time in which many hard working families are struggling to make ends meet as a result of the credit crunch and rising food and fuel prices we must do all we can as a party to come up with pragmatic and practical measures to ensure that those who have put their trust in us in the past are not let down. The success of a government is measured not just by how we do in the good times, but how we react when times get tough.

The good people of the UK will never forgive the party I am proud to be a member of if at the time they turn to us for answers to their problems, we indulge in some great inner party row and debate about the future direction of the party and the leadership. Such actions would divert our attentions away from what matters, namely improving life for millions of people across the county struggling in an uncertain global economy. In short, the kind of attacks displayed by Charles are a sure fire way to opposition. I merely pose this question to my fellow party members; can anyone remember a time a political party giving the image of being divided won an election? I can’t.

And so, to the performance of the government. We have two options. The Tories, under David Cameron or Labour under Gordon Brown. For Cameron and his sidekick George Osborne, all they can do is blame Gordon for everything going wrong in the economy. Now, I might not be an economist, but is it not a bit of a coincidence that the problems we now find in our economy are being replicated worldwide? For a party supposedly full of bright minds, the Conservatives give the impression that they don’t quite get globalisation in which economies around the world are more dependant on each other than ever before.

What should matter is not who to attack for the problems we now face today as Osborne and Cameron seem to want, but how we make things better. Given these unique problems, their can be no better man than Gordon Brown to lead us through these troubled times. His recent announcement of a stamp duty holiday, increasing the winter fuel payment to some of our most vulnerable citizens and the freeze on fuel duty show that Gordon is working harder than ever to protect people from the worst of the current economic slowdown. If times are tough now, just imagine what it would have been like if we had no minimum wage, had no tax credits for families, and interest rates were set not by the Bank of England but by Whitehall in the quest for cheap, short term political gains at the expense of economic stability as happened under the Conservatives.

And so, as we face some of the toughest months in Labour’s recent history, our message should be that we will remain united, and focused not on ourselves or the future ideological direction we should take. We must concentrate on people up and down the country who are struggling to make ends meet. We must show that we can get through these times, and we must give people hope that they can get through and uncertain period in our economy. Let’s stop the sniping in the party, and give Gordon or full and unequivocal support in putting the interests of the British people first, not the interests of certain disgruntled members.

badman

Gordon Brown has failed badly and shows no signs of knowing how to do any better.

I agree that there are many problems. But you don't wait to solve any of them until you can solve all of them. You take it one at a time.

The first step is to remove Gordon Brown and have a leadership election. It is a betrayal of the party and of the country (neither of which ever voted Gordon Brown in as leader) to put this off any longer.

Francis

Noddy gets a dressing down from Big Ears

albert hall

Gordon's polities and initiatives, announced with fanfares of trumpets, and designed to keep Gordon dreaming in No. 10, have a strange habit of returning to bite him. I believe it is because he spends so much time dithering with all the options that he ends up with too many. A new tiger is about to be released from its cage in the form of the bus pass. Announced with much enthusiasm and glee, but without any real thought of the economic bombshell that would unfold. Similar to: the 10p tax, backdated VED bands and now the £175,000 stamp duty threshold triangulated disaster.

All the lovely old people of this country would be issued with a pass to travel free on buses in the area in which they live. The Government would pick up the bill. Wonderful. Something really useful for us old ones for a change. Something to take our minds off the 2p cost of living raise to our pensions. Three more cheers for Gordon. The pass was recently extended so that us old codgers could travels across the whole of Britain on a bus for free. Ecstatic cheers for Gordon.

However, now we find that our Gordon put a Treasury cap on the money put aside for funding the bus pass. The local councils would have to fund any spill over from the Council Tax. The bus pass is now so successful that local councils are forking out huge amounts to keep the scheme going and Gordon has washed his gnawed fingers of the whole scheme because he can no longer afford it. Nor can the councils. Another dead promise? Beware of Gordon bearing gifts.

Billy Boy

Brown's toast whichever way go look at it. He and his dismal party are doomed. He coned us when he was Chancellor and he's still conning us that he is the right person to lead us through the current difficulties. His great idae is to pay people's mortgages if they can't afford it - but not to reward "recklessness". Has he thought what fun lawyers would have trying to define what "recklessness" is? If this is his big idea to relaunch labour it shows what a complete tosser he is. Pay feckless people's mortgages with tax-payers' money whilst hard working people who are sensible with their money struggle on! Trouble is that people live beyond their means and then go blubbing to the Govt for help when they get into trouble!

flipped

The Labour party has failed! OK Brown doesn't instill confidence but it's not just him that's the problem. Clarke and the rest of them, Blair, Brown, Miliband and their coteries are also the problem. They've had eleven years in which to make good a social agenda yet managed to turn themselve into a fascist party to do the bidding of Big business. Yes we are in a "global recession" but if the government had strengthen banking and financial regulations rather than removing them altogether we might not be in such a serious situation. Building an economy and society based on cheap credit and property value was the height of stupidity and ignorance!

My only fear is the alternatives are equally as stupid and self serving!

THE ESSEX BOYS

Anne McElvoy's article in the Evening Standard makes a good point that has prompted our small political group to elaborate on why and how Brown goes so wrong. The point AM makes concerns Brown/Labour being immersed in the mechanics of making things happen while Cameron stresses how his proposals might impact on people. It reminds us of the crazy inventor who boasts about the way his new 'toy' works rather whilst the shrewder marketing man says - "Just tell me what it does for people".

Labour's is a mistake often made by those with little business experience - and few if any of our senior ministers have worked outside politics. Sound business leaders evolve differing short, medium and long-term plans for good reason; inexperienced managers try to kill all birds with the one stone - too slow to hit the immediate problem decisively and too hasty to get to the heart of the long-term one. Gordon Brown typifies this approach which is why his 're-launches' have little impact and still fail to address and correct deep-seated difficulties.

As a small group - all of whom have been successful in business careers, and with a keen interest in good governance - we see in Brown the kind of time-serving manager we were all anxious not to employ. The sad truth - and perhaps the kindest comment we have read amongst much (not undeserved) vitriol - is that the man is just a ‘3rd-rate plodder'. Such men create complex problems but are seldom able to own up to themselves, let alone find solutions.

I'm afraid that Mr Brown - and with him his self-made bureaucratic Labour machine - simply has to go.

JJ

The problem with Labour is that they don't seem to get that government is not about micromanaging everything, particularly when they keep breaking their own rules (GB's Golden Rule, TB signing us up to the international anti-corruption treaty come to mind). They don't understand that government is by its nature inefficient because it operates in a vacuum. We need small government UNLESS the government is prepared to give its citizens transparency (another double standard, why can the government spy on everything we do, but we can't have that same level of transparency in what THEY are doing?). I voted for New Labour in every general election, but until we have the kind of transparency in government that Scandinavians get, I will from now on vote for whoever offers the lowest taxes, smallest government etc, its pointless otherwise and any talk of the government SERVING the people is completely hollow.

john problem

Every time a labour has-been opens his mouth to utter more rotweiler opinions on poor old Gorrdie, there's never a mention of how the government should be improved to provide a better service to its citizens. Only how 'we must stay in power, mates.' What a ghastly crew. Time to send for the UN.

Neil McGowan

Is this the same duffer who released known sex-offenders (who were supposed to have been deported, since they weren't UK nationals) to reoffend, and didn't keep any records about their movements? And THEN, when he realised his mistake, kept doing it because he was worried someone would notice if he stopped?

Is this the same bungler who was the worst Education Secretary on record?

What Charles Clarke has to say on any topic is hopeless compromised by his own Ministerial record of gross incompetence and phenomenal mismanagement. I'm amazed the New Statesman found room for his views.

Diogenes

Cloudy Clarke is the best person to play Macbeth in this Scottish drama. Neil McGowan has found his "damned spot".
Poor Gordon is beset by enemies and himself--he should have stayed in Academia where he was quite brilliant. The Blue Moons, under Cameron, do not deserve such an easy gift of power--it'll mean even greater ills for poor Britons.

Bill Bailey

What JJ said!

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