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Thursday, 09 October 2008

Gordon's gallows humour

By John Rentoul

The posh word is dissonance. Several of my colleagues have been mightily impressed that the Prime Minister was able to make a spontaneous quip last night when a mobile rang in the audience for his speech: "I don't know if another bank has fallen..." Nick Robinson thought Gordon Brown might even be enjoying the crisis. Much talk in other parts of the journalists' funny farm of Dunkirk spirit, turn-round in Gordon's fortunes and even a snap election.

Don't believe a word of it. I was struck by the vox pops on the BBC Ten O''Clock News last night. Outside the Beltway, people think the Government has made a terrible mess of the economy and are furious that it is asking taxpayers to pick up the tab.

This is no turn-round. As Jeremy Warner said the other day, the darkest hour is just before everything goes completely black. Thanks to Brown, Labour's reputation for economic competence is in the Winter of Discontent/ERM blender. This is game over.

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Gordon Brown has proven to be a gullible accomplice in the Bank robberies. It's the piratical band, which has grown audacious, as "insiders" of the world's financial coffers, which needs to be apprehended. These are not the euphemistically-termed "fat-cats"--they are life-destroyers.

"...and I believe what will also be said of this age, the first decade of the 21st Century, that out of what will be seen as the greatest restructuring of the global economy, perhaps one even greater than at the time of the industrial revolution, a new world order was created....."

Gordon Brown
Mansion House
20th June 2007

See and hear it for yourself:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hMmj8RM5Kr8

And here’s the UK (government) Treasury transcript of the speech:

http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/2014.htm

and now the boom is over everything else people hate about NU labour, their corruption, incompetence and authoritarian facist wish to control us all ever more closely will come to the fore

the boom and resulting feel good enabled Blair. brown and their cronies to get away with things that frequently bordered on the criminal.

The booms gone but the thieving political class and all the useless non jobs theyve created are still there they will be the focus of some serious anger

the thought of seeing healthcare cut back to pay bin inspectors who everyone in any case loathes will cause some serious unrest

This is Gordon channelling Jim Callaghan.

The line isn't even funny.

Pity he has no skin in the game. It matters not if banks fall over, if jobs go in huge numbers or if people lose their homes - he'll get his pension. He'll get the protection squad. He'll get the plaudits and cushy directorships. The way the media are going he won't even get any blame for any part of the shit storm going on right now, even though from a UK perspective his hand was on the tiller for a decade as Chancellor. He allowed inflation to be fiddled, he turned a blind eye to the troubles building up in the money markets, he cleaved a gaping wound in financial regulations in this country and his hand is still on the tiller now. Darling does nothing without the nod from Cyclops.

I'm sure lots of people are angry but then the stats on who is more trusted in a crisis are RISING for Brown against Cameron, whereas surely they should be falling.

Similarly who is most trusted on the economy is FALLING for Cameron/Osbourne and rising for Brown/Darling. Again, the reverse should be happening if what you say is the complete reality.

PS You forgot to mention that Miliband should be Prime Minister. ;) (Just kidding!)

Attending a hospital yesterday, I was in a waiting room with over 100 people. I can tell you from the conversations I overheard that Brown and the Bankers are being blamed totally.

That "OUR" money was used to bail out bankers was considered a "Bloody disgrace" that we can be thrown to the wolves time and again without any government help and the rich can get all they want, has gone down like a lead balloon.

Robinson and co, contained within the westminster village have no idea whatsoever what we, the common people, the people of England, Wales Scotland and Ireland are thinking! All we get from him and his ilk are their views on what the "PM" meant when he said "let them eat cake" and what a jolly fellow he is.

I hope he does call a snap election!!!!!! please

http://www.order-order.com/2008/10/peston-leaker-hunt.html

See how happy he is, he thinks he's won, even though he's responsible for crucifying this country and saddling it with untold debt.

So that's what it takes to see a genuine smile from Gordon.

Brown was waiting for an 'event' to save him. He thinks that this is it. I am very worried that it might be just that - unless the opposition get to work on his seminal involvement in its making. Mind you no-one of remotely any sense I talk to thinks any other than Brown is bloody useless, but they also don't think much of the putative competence of Cameron/Osbourne.

The normal rule is when a CEO drives a company close to bankruptcy they are fired. Pleas of experience being essential to recovery are ignored.

Who fiddled the data so that the charts became unreliable. Who borrowed ands spent to create a large number of people dependent on the state for political advantage.

Gordon Brown has driven the UK economy on to the rocks. It's time for him to be fired.

So, let's see...

Gordon was waiting for an event to happen miraculously that would save him.

Then {whoosh!} one such miraculous even just happens along.

Yeah, right.

I think that before a General Election the Tories will have stockpiled plenty of footage of GB promising "no more boom and bust" etc and will play in constantly. Every spokesman will repeat the line in every interview. Now is not the time to point fingers, but come the GE the gloves will be off. It's not exactly an open goal but the ammunition is there waiting to be fired.
Remember the old maxim "it's the economy, stupid". People won't thank GB for getting them out of this mess (if he can by 2010), they'll blame him for getting them into it in the first place. Hell hath no fury like a repossessed home owner or redundant employee.

I think that before a General Election the Tories will have stockpiled plenty of footage of GB promising "no more boom and bust" etc and will play in constantly. Every spokesman will repeat the line in every interview. Now is not the time to point fingers, but come the GE the gloves will be off. It's not exactly an open goal but the ammunition is there waiting to be fired.
Remember the old maxim "it's the economy, stupid". People won't thank GB for getting them out of this mess (if he can by 2010), they'll blame him for getting them into it in the first place. Hell hath no fury like a repossessed home owner or redundant employee.

Was the first post by John Rentoul himself? It seemed more like one of those rabid rants - "would the last person leaving switch the light off" beloved of Times comment editors. So scientific opinion polls give way to BBC vox-pops? And "game is over"? The parallel might correctly be with the USSR's "Great Patriotic War" against Nazi invasion when Stalin became seen as the hero. Perceptions are all, facts are are like library books on a shelf, some are forgotten, others somehow become popular reading.

Quote LabourBoy: "I'm sure lots of people are angry but then the stats on who is more trusted in a crisis are RISING for Brown against Cameron, whereas surely they should be falling.

Similarly who is most trusted on the economy is FALLING for Cameron/Osbourne and rising for Brown/Darling. Again, the reverse should be happening if what you say is the complete reality."
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That depends on what survey you use, some show good figures for Brown, and other surveys not so good, it all depends on the wording of the question, which produces markedly different results.

Brown is doing this for a purpose to achieve a long vaunted socialist ambition.

If the share price of banks goes down far enough Labour can buy them for a song.

Nationalisation by stealth!

I know why Brown's smiling.

He's grinning because he has achieved his dream.

This is his dream - power over all of us. He has it now, and while calamity follows calamity cannot be ousted.

My full thoughts are at:

http://dungeekin.blogspot.com/2008/10/i-know-why-hes-smiling.html

Comments welcome, which is more than can be said of our Goonverment.

Regards

Dungeekin.

Brown Windsor Soufflé:-

Take one booming economy. Stir in New Labour (spin as required). Overcook for 10 years. Wait for collapse. Rub hands and repeat: “Free Market model; we told you so.”

Brown is detested by everyone I know, and is given his share of the blame for this collapse. A lot of people have yet to feel the pain or make the adjustments they will have to make - when they do, they're not going to thank Brown and New Labour, quite apart from all the other reasons for despising this incompetent government. What we want, and are not getting, is a scathing attack from the Opposition that matches our fury at the political and financial classes, but of course - they're just as much a part of it.

Typical independent reading idiotic comments. The tories wouldn't be able to handle it any better. Govm't response to the icelandic robbery has been masterful and they'll do far more to alleviate the worst of what is coming to those that most need it than phoney Dave et al.

At last the media and other's who were led like lemmings, are grasping the notion that Brown was never a good chancellor, the only thing he allowed to happen, well him and Tony another bloodsucking leach, is that they allowed very rich to get richer and lie about the quality of their abilities. Brown was always a poor chancellor, I suppose now we will get the I told you so routine from all in the world, even though they all voted for them.

Im sorry is beardy in fantasy land? Icelandic crisis? Who allowed public money to go to overseas banks in the first place!!! Who never said a word when it helped them out of a hole by creating funds? Why were the puiblic, after all our taxes have been invested, not informed? Only when it all goes belly up, do we see action. That is not leadership it is incompetence, and as for the tories, does he know if thy would have given independence (Joke) to the BoE? Get a grip Beardy if you play with fire, stands a chance you get burned.

Mister MoneyBags Is Laughing B'Cos The Capital Sell-Out Is Going Even Better Than He Had Hoped For

Mister MoneyBags Is Laughing B'Cos The Bank of England Is Now Underwritten By The EuroMonsterStateUnionBankers*Bank

So The Private Sector Can Go Bust

The Bank of England Is In Europe Now


That Is Why Corpus Brown Is Laughing For The Time Being


Shanghai Billy Says
Wot Corpus Brown Does Not Yet Know,
Is That War President General George Washington Bush
The Second
Hates Slimy Limeys And Scotch Git Bankers,
And GGWII Plans To SUPERSIZE The EuroMonsterStateBankers*Bank
Rice Paper Holdings
M8*

SLIMY LIMEY LOUNGE LIZARDS AND DOUBLE SCOTCH GIT BANKERS

Brown is smiling, as he's been claiming for a while, more power for governments to run the world's economy to take away the freedom from markets . Now he can at last have his way.

First the scheme was to de-regulate all financial markets, encouraging sub-prime lending, forward trading on a reckless scale with tiny deposits required, and the permitting of companies to claim unrealised gains as profits. Not surpisingly turning the financial world into a giant unregulated casino where all could win has finally collapsed - just as the one world government types intend.

The political game of power seizure to the centre can now begin.

Brown will now be at the forefront of those claiming that supra-national government must take over all aspects of our lives.

Since Anthony referes to this article in his piece, I will return the favour.
Very interesting reading from this well regarded independent polling expert.

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/1495

Take one booming economy. Stir in New Labour (spin as required). Overcook for 10 years. Wait for collapse. Rub hands and repeat: “Free Market model; we told you so.”

Rob De plume,

Presumably that'll be the same overcooking of the economy that has been relentlessly pursued by the conservative administration in America? are you seriously suggesting that the labour party tried to engineer the collapse of the free market by allowing it to be free? what a ridiculous argument

Making a 'joke' about another bank failing when a lot of vulnerable people are terrified about their life savings, jobs, houses, pensions etc isn't the sign of a person fit to lead the country.

At times of crisis, a Premier should reassure people. Any normal person would have instinctively known that making that kind of joke at that time was at the very least insensitive .... he's not normal. I think he's got some form of autism.

It is appropriate for Cameron et al to be cooperative now - the press would be worse if they tried to exploit it at this critical stage - they can't seize control, after all (at least not in a timeframe that would work) - what is surprising is the exploitation of this by Labour and their cheerleaders, the BBC - Do these people have no morals? Their sick bias is so great I can no longer watch them

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