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Wednesday, 29 October 2008

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Dirty Euro

I think the election will be stolen then.

AQZtrueblue

WHAT THE HELL ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO ABOUT THIS?
I AM TOTALLY STRESSED OUT!
We keep hearing this, but no one tells us what to do. What's the point if we are helpless?
This is way too frustrating!!!!!!

J.Kirk

This entire election is nothing but a farce if the GOP is going to be allowed either directly or indirectly to tamper with votes as it clearly has in past elections. US democrasy has now become a sad joke. The will of the electorate is totally meaningless if elections can be stolen. Why aren't the media shouting about this abuse from the rooftops?

Honest Vote Count

Wow. Great video. What more evidence do people need?

How can we protect our votes? Check out:

www.honestvotecount.org

hopeless

if McCain wins, I will be leaving the country (no choice really, would starve under his healthcare plan). I've had it.

Kevin

I moved out of the US since it is not a democracy anymore.

Farmer Iggy

At 1:49, he was mistaken. In the full interview, he shows that when you select a candidate, then select a straight party, the candidate will not change. Nader was selected before Mountain Party was selected.

Calibration (stylus) errors are obvious errors and not effective for vote fraud.

Urban Ospreys

Technical and security problems aside, 'having a referendum' will soon be a false concept, easier than online banking. Voting will be like leaving a comment on a blog, and every complicated and compromised tier of 'representative' can drop into the history books.

Sooner the better. Can anyone think how authoritarianism could take over a system with no representatives?

Concerned Citizen

Great article. Everyone has to read this article before the election! Can we get this on Digg?

Check out the film "Stealing Democracy," from the 2004 election where 40-60 year old women are able to "hack" a voting machine by going to its C:/ folder going into two subfolders, opening up a text document, and literally changing a single digit in the coding that records the vote count e.g. Obama = X and McCain = Y. No passwords, no encryption, no nothing. A second grader could hack these machines that are supposed to be the backbone of our democracy.

Lisa W

Everyone says it's time to act, but no one says how to do it.

What can be done and by whom?

ANKH

Someone in Open House keeps tampering with ANKH postings here it is again.
So now we can see and know that the US Elections pf the 21st Century have the US peoples votes being controlled manipulated and stolen.
Does this mean the NAZIFICATION of AMERICA is Completed and Democracy in the land of the free and home of the brave is a complete illusion-Check out good analysis on
THE NAZIFICATION OF AMERICA By Norman D.LIVERGOOD
http://www.hermes-press.com/nazification_step4.http`

scousekraut

Good article and well researched. Machines for voting should be banned.

moonbuggy

He shows that there are many choices, but on Nov 4th, there will only be two choices, Obama and McCain. For the purposes of the video this guy mis calibrated and then recalibrated them. He did this to make the point that if they are not properly calibrated, problems can occur. However, this also points out that someone can calibrate them in a way that the vote ends up going to the other party. In other words, when you see 5 displayed, it all seems so innocent and it's not picking anyone, it's just random.

But when they are out of calibration, they work pretty much the same each time. So if it's off far enough to vote for the other, there will be some tendency to repeat that problem over and over. Not choose randomly, but do the same mistake etc. Because of this, it can be rigged to help cheat for an election. This is really bad. And now, this new article points out that even after calibration the problems can remain.

moonbuggy

One typo.. Where I say "in other words". What I mean is in other words, the guy in the video is trying to make it seem like it's nothing to really worry about and it's not just picking one party.. But it could end up like then when it comes down to only two parties, and someone has purposely miscalibrated in just the right way.

AndyUK

I first read about these voting machines (particularly Diebold), about three years ago, when browsing progressive literature and sites. This is a disgusting and alarming situation, but one which is not publicised in the US as much as it should be - for obvious reasons. This story cannot be hidden away in intellectual newspapers and internet sites, it must be shown time after time on major news programmes, front page on all newspapers. Of course, this will never happen, because the tabloid press and TV stations are controlled by Rupert Murdoch, who of course controls what most Americans see and hear, and is determined to keep the Republicans in power at all costs.

Renee

Many voting locations offer an alternative paper + optical scan system that has a countable paper trail. If your location offers it, and your e-voting touch-screens don't have printable receipts, I recommend voting using a paper ballot!

jon w

This is basically the same article that was written in 2004 when Bush won places like Ohio where he was TOLD in advance that he'd win the state. It is creepy and unacceptable in supposedly the greatest democracy in the world to have the voting machines made by Republican donors. You might as well change the name to Zimbabwe. If the polls suggest Obama has won and then results say otherwise I expect a lot of rioting. That these systems haven't been banned is truly disturbing. It makes me wonder when McCain says things like "I WILL win..."

bobthedog

UK and Europe,

Please open your doors to the hordes of American refugees who will be streaming to you, desperate for the taste of freedom, if their nation succumbs to fascism.

One time, they helped you in your time of need; please reciprocate in theirs. At minimum, somewhere near two-thirds of them are neither wilfully ignorant nor evilly conservative - and NONE of the ones who will seek to flee to your shores will be. They are as much hostages of their government and its misinformation programmes as the citizens of the former Soviet Union were.

We ask you for help, now that the slow fall into the Long Night has begun again.

Thank You.

frank b

The more I see of these electronic machines , the more I think we in the U.K. should stick to the old low-tech system.Making a cross on the ballot paper with a small pencil and putting in the ballot box.It's virtually foolproof and tamper-proof.They tried electronic machines in the last Scottish elections and they malfunctioned badly.There is no need to change to a new system.

Diogenes

It seems cliche now, to say that we live in Orwellian times, but most of the really big global issues are governed by an elite, which has taken years of planning for these events. Nation states are being deliberately starved of education and information, fast becoming shallow, materialistic societies, prepared for discarding, when they can no longer be useful consumers. Goverments can believe themselves justified in taking control of election results, simply by having created a dumb electorate--perhaps they hoped, it would be too dumb and simple to notice. Have noticed too, how gratuitous violence on TV is now normal viewing?

tnp

does this mean Sarah is really a shoe-in? My heart aches, seriously!

Greg

Wow, it seems Republicans are slimy and Democrats are little honest darlings. And that's not partisan, either. I lived in Chicago and New York, probably the two most corrupt areas in the nation, and they are corrupt because they are controlled by the Democratic machine. Voter fraud has been so much a part of life by the Democrats in Chicago for so many decades it is no longer even talked about--just assumed. Who are you all kidding? Get your heads out of your partisan nostrils and WAKE UP! Corruption knows no bounds--everyone is suspectible to it, and history amply points this out.

At least have an honest conversation about this. Our enemby is not the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, or even Big Business. Our enemies are those that will steal our lives, our liberties, and our ability to pursue happiness, as our Founding Documents state. We are not guaranteed/entitled to anything except the PURSUIT--the ability to have equal access to the same tools. But you all want equal outcomes guaranteed. There's another name for this: Marxism. And, if everything you say here is true, you'll be getting a watered down version of it Nov. 4 in he who calls himself "the light": your "messiah," Obama.

Wake up.

greg

I tried posting a comment that is not liberal in its bias. It never appeared here. It was "grabbed" away by the editors, I presume. My comment (I doubt this one will be posted, but we'll see) pointed out that the two most corrupt areas in the nation for voter fraud--Chicago and New York--have controlled by the Democrats and hvae been for decades. And not a peep by anyone.

Suddenly a vote machine is made by someone who is not controlled by the DNC and there's a riot.

Jill Duncan

Uh, Greg, there is ZERO evidence of votor fraud anywhere in the United States. The federal attorneys who were illegally fired were fired specifically because there was NO case to prosecute despite 2 years of desperate research to find even just a single case of voter fraud!

The days of dead voters in old Chicago are long gone, and I don't know what planet you're on, but New York City has never had a voter fraud issue at all.

A statistically significant sampling of more than 19 million voters have been studied in just the past 2 major elections alone, and there is absolutely ZERO evidence of any voter fraud. NONE!!!!

Conversely, there is enormous and pervasive ELECTION fraud, and it is almost always perpetrated by the Republicans, period. Do your homework, turn off your Fox Puke and READ something, and use your critical thinking skills before you bother posting your flat-out inaccuracies, please!!

Jill

Jill Duncan

Just to be clear about my last post, the "desperate research" I was referring to was done by the Republicans and the Bush Administration -- when ZERO voter fraud was detected and there were ZERO cases to prosecute, and the 9 soon-to-be-fired attorneys refused to make up fake cases, they were subsequently fired by the Bush Administration and the corrupt Alberto Gonzalez. He and the administration all deserve to be in jail over it.

There is NO SUCH THING as voter fraud in the United States -- it simply does not exist here!!

Jill

spa soil screening

Hi,
Great article. It is creepy and unacceptable in supposedly the greatest democracy in the world to have the voting machines made by Republican donors. You might as well change the name to Zimbabwe.

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